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The universe has already made almost all the stars it will ever make

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Re: The universe has already made almost all the stars it will ever make

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Assuming no quirks in physics that the universe just left out for yet another pathological counter example to our understanding of everything — it could just be the star stuff hanging out and social distancing after a star blazing first act.

Re: The universe has already made almost all the stars it will ever make

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It is funny, I was just thinking about this myself, the fact that in a determinable amount of time, the observable universe, will be completely unable to sustain any type of life. Really puts things into perspective.

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https://imgur.com/gallery/9KWrH for the uninitiated.

Re: The universe has already made almost all the stars it will ever make

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Until humans start making them.

The important part is to disassemble stars. They are burning all the hydrogen way too fast.

Or dumping them into supermassive black holes. They'll survive a googol years or so, and feeding matter in will produce plenty of energy.

Re: The universe has already made almost all the stars it will ever make

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This dramatic visualization of the timeline for the rest of the universe is well worth a watch to get a feel for what we believe the future of the universe to look like [TIMELAPSE OF THE FUTURE: A Journey to the End of Time] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD4izuDMUQA However, when you get to the end (which is perhaps a little depressing!), I'd recommend learning a bit about what we think could come 'after' this peri…

Obligatory link to Isaac Asimov's wonderful short story "The Last Question" which explores this topic:

https://www.physics.princeton.edu/ph115/LQ.pdf

Re: The universe has already made almost all the stars it will ever make

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It is funny, I was just thinking about this myself, the fact that in a determinable amount of time, the observable universe, will be completely unable to sustain any type of life. Really puts things into perspective.

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See the "last question" for the reference: https://www.multivax.com/last_question.html

Re: The universe has already made almost all the stars it will ever make

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It is funny, I was just thinking about this myself, the fact that in a determinable amount of time, the observable universe, will be completely unable to sustain any type of life. Really puts things into perspective.

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No thread about the heat death of the universe in the internet has ever lacked this comment. And justly so. Absolutely stunning short story.

Re: The universe has already made almost all the stars it will ever make

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Some stars will last a really long time too. If the Sun gets too old, Proxima Centauri will supposedly last for over a trillion years and is within The universe might be concluding its star-forming era but will be capable of sustaining complex life for trillions upon trillions of years. After that we don't know what really happens. Heat death is the depressing but most widely accepted outcome.

Ok this trillion number you are talking about makes me feel better about this article.

Yeah we have a good backup star AI intelligences would have no problem traveling between stars. Who cares if it takes thousands of years even... just turn yourself off. Even better send automated factories to build compute power and robotics and then transmit your minds when the new site is ready.

Re: The universe has already made almost all the stars it will ever make

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Wikipedia has a page on the Timeline of the far future[1]. It lists a ton of physical and cosmological things that are predicted to happen based on our current understanding of physics. A really fun read that always takes me down a rabbit's hole of phenomena wikipedia pages. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_far_future

There's a video on that. The end of the universe: https://youtu.be/uD4izuDMUQA This is so weird to think that for most of its life the universe will be empty and cold. Like what's even the point of all this, of life, of us, if in the end nothing matters, everything decays into nothingness.

Even on shorter timescales we all die and cease to matter. That doesn't mean life is without meaning. Life is amazing, and terribly short. I wish I could live 1000 more lives, and live them all differently. There's so much I will never do.

Re: The universe has already made almost all the stars it will ever make

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I'd be interested to know how people (humanity) would feel if it were known that the universe would just come to a hard-stop in a million years. In practice, it should make no difference. That's already much, much further than any of us can comprehend. It's a hundred times the length of recorded human history. What would it really matter? On the other hand, it would seem so short, I think a sense of nihilism would al…

Tech moves so fast, I can’t think of a termination event that couldn’t be solved with 1M years of exponential growth. Even with the Big Freeze or Big Crunch of the universe, there’s at least some hope that some currently unknown science, energy source, etc. might be accessible to us in 1M years that could delay or reduce the severity of the event. But, let’s say there’s a an event that will somehow destroy our entire…

Tech moves so fast now. While I don't believe we'll be leveling off anytime soon, it's worth considering the possibility of it.

Re: The universe has already made almost all the stars it will ever make

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Wikipedia has a page on the Timeline of the far future[1]. It lists a ton of physical and cosmological things that are predicted to happen based on our current understanding of physics. A really fun read that always takes me down a rabbit's hole of phenomena wikipedia pages. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_far_future

There's a video on that. The end of the universe: https://youtu.be/uD4izuDMUQA This is so weird to think that for most of its life the universe will be empty and cold. Like what's even the point of all this, of life, of us, if in the end nothing matters, everything decays into nothingness.

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