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The red warning light on Richard Branson’s space flight

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Re: The red warning light on Richard Branson’s space flight

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I recommend Schmidle’s recent book “Test Gods” if you are interested in Virgin Galactic and test piloting. Schmidle is not an engineer and I would have enjoyed a deeper dive into Virgin Galactic’s design choices, but it is a great book about (among other things) the tensions that emerge when a complex technical project is overseen from a distance by utterly nontechnical, PR-oriented upper management. The company’s co…

Agreed about the chickens and it will have a broader negative impact than the $SPCE stock price. Fundamentally I think it’s a culture problem. Collaborative engineering that identifies problems, views them as opportunities, doesn’t finger-point, and works each problem. Versus a sales and marketing organization with hard deadlines and a 100% focus on perception and revenue targets. We don’t need an Apollo 1 in the pri…

Sadly these rules tend to get written in blood.

Re: The red warning light on Richard Branson’s space flight

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Good article, but I did not like the way it referred to Scaled Composites as a company "contracting" for Virgin. IIRC Burt Rutan (founder of Scaled Composites) began the whole program (Spaceship One. etc.), but became associated with Branson later, and that eventually led to an acquisition. I suppose that like many others, the acquisition deal required the re-writing of history. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scaled_C…

Scaled Composites was contracting for Virgin Galactic though. Rutan and Scaled did SpaceShipOne for the X Prize, then Branson contracted them to do SpaceShipTwo for Virgin. Also, i don’t follow what you are saying about the acquisition - Scaled was acquired by Northrop Grumman back in 2007, not Virgin Galactic / Branson.

Re: The red warning light on Richard Branson’s space flight

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This highlights why having automated pilots in spaceships is so critical. Software can be tested more thoroughly than humans, and cannot override safety protocols. If the rules say to abort, the software aborts. Humans get to say "I think we'll be fine", and put lives on the line.

> Software can be tested more thoroughly than humans, and cannot override safety protocols.

Humans have had millions of years of testing and can be robustly relied on to take action to avoid dying.

I’m not saying humans are perfect, because obviously they are not. But software isn’t either.

And software and software testing are done by humans too, so the issue is not fallible human vs machine. Pilot vs automation is just comparing two different modes of human fallibility.

Re: The red warning light on Richard Branson’s space flight

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Brilliant well written article. Not without bias, but you can see through the words on the page and into the immense pressure that team at Virgin Galactic must have been under to get their boss into space and to beat Bezos, all for the inflated ego of one man. Branson did put his life on the line to achieve that accolade though, which was a gutsy move.

There are other flaws too. Like pretending to bike to the spaceport on the day of, but it was actually filmed the week before and when called out, they said, oops, you're right, sorry! It's like when Guy Fiery in his hot rod. He pretends he rolls up to the place in his 70s hot rod, but actually it's just rolled out of the truck that lugs it around from location to location and he opens the door, sits, gets filmed get…

Also why (fake) cycle to a rocket launch in an attempt to reinforce eco credentials when rocket launches are anything but environmentally friendly!

Re: The red warning light on Richard Branson’s space flight

#185
post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Heh. He’s probably a nice guy... and his example is just the one that came first to mind. It irks me people like Branson are blasé about faking something they don’t have to fake. He’s probably dedicated to the environment even if his activities and businesses aren’t friendly to the environment. But just faking it like he really did it, he carried on with the ruse during his little speech too. Like, why?

Because he's a professional narcissist, and everything narcissists do is attention-seeking and fake. There are a number of books about Branson, and they all underline that he's "not a detail person." As in, he literally doesn't understand what he's doing a lot of the time. He's good at surrounding himself with competent people who make things happen. He's also good at sales - talking a good game, being charming and o…

Bransons ‘businesses’ are anything but conventional…

Mostly setup and then portions sold off, with Virgin licensing their name to the business.

Even before Covid, Virgin Atlantic is a real shit show financially with virtually everything (planes, landing slots etc) pledged as security for debt to some lender

Re: The red warning light on Richard Branson’s space flight

#186

I recommend Schmidle’s recent book “Test Gods” if you are interested in Virgin Galactic and test piloting. Schmidle is not an engineer and I would have enjoyed a deeper dive into Virgin Galactic’s design choices, but it is a great book about (among other things) the tensions that emerge when a complex technical project is overseen from a distance by utterly nontechnical, PR-oriented upper management. The company’s co…

This may be a smidgen off-topic, but any good books to recommend about either the Apollo program or SpaceX that do delve a little deeper into engineering challenges and design choices?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Apollo-Springer-Praxis-Books-Explor... "How Apollo Flew to the Moon" is a very detailed look at the technical aspects of Apollo.

Re: The red warning light on Richard Branson’s space flight

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Good article, but I did not like the way it referred to Scaled Composites as a company "contracting" for Virgin. IIRC Burt Rutan (founder of Scaled Composites) began the whole program (Spaceship One. etc.), but became associated with Branson later, and that eventually led to an acquisition. I suppose that like many others, the acquisition deal required the re-writing of history. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scaled_C…

Interestingly Scaled Composites was not mentioned even once during the livestream.

Re: The red warning light on Richard Branson’s space flight

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Interesting article regarding Virgin Galactic safety practices. I'm not sure about this comparison though? > Branson’s Virgin Galactic, Elon Musk’s SpaceX, and Jeff Bezos’s Blue Origin [...] profits depend on making frequent and safe human spaceflight a reality. For SpaceX, their profits are largely driven by unmanned launches. Maybe the point was just to mention a better known company to the general public?

Its talking about the future.

Re: The red warning light on Richard Branson’s space flight

#189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Typically warning lights appear when the thing they warn about is impending, not that you've past the point. Otherwise they would be useless, except for existential mockery.

I always wanted a street navigator that would say: "you should have turned left back there" followed by a random insult in various languages. Much like every human navigator I've ever had who has been as unhelpful as possible.

Or maybe just a heavy sigh before “Rerouting…”.

Re: The red warning light on Richard Branson’s space flight

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> “ A private program can’t afford to lose anybody,” Branson said. Worth noting that Virgin Galactic is currently the only private space program to have killed anyone so far. This quote is from before the fatal 2014 crash, but the FAA makes it pretty clear that a virgin galactic had a cavalier attitude towards crew safety[0] back then too. Combined with this article, that paints a picture of Virgin Galactic as a genu…

>activation at too low a speed would cause the vehicle to break apart. A breathtakingly bad design for a spacecraft.

I do hope you know that outside its designed flight envelope, almost any space craft / rocket / airplane breaks apart pretty fast.

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