Us keyboard layout only :(
Linux on the Framework Laptop
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#212Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would also ask for a better keyboard. The one currently offered (at least with the model I am interested in), is not fit for purpose when it comes to development.
More generally, I would love if the custom keyboard community jumped on this bandwagon and we saw ergonomic keyboards (and a trackpoint) for the Framework laptop.
I pestered in one of the other HN threads about the Framework laptop that having ortholinear keys would be cool. It's technically feasible, but would be too expensive without sufficient quantity being made.
Looks to me that to allow for even the low-profile Kailh choc switches, the laptop would need to be much thicker. (The DIY laptop is 15mm thick. My PCB+kailh+bumpons keyboard is 14mm thick).
https://github.com/saoto28/pineapple60 This (for the ThinkPad T470) barely fits, and that laptop is 24mm thick.
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#213I am currently using the DIY version running Ubuntu. I absolutely love this laptop. It had been awhile since I built a computer (let alone a laptop). The DIY kit instructions and the construction of the machine itself are very well thought out. I am very excited for a future where we can measure the lifespan of our personal electronics in decades rather than months. Congrats to the Framework team!
what about the fans? Many reviews online say that the fans spins frequently and are a bit loud. Also, did you find any issue on the output of dmesg?
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#214Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you need more than 64GB of memory?
I think 16-32 is the sweet spot. For specific use case I could see 64. But beyond that it would be <.1% of users. Like u would want a thread ripper or 2s at that point
What are some practice applications/usecases for that much (64) memory? I'm in the process of building a PC and I'm trying to figure out what ram size should I go for.
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This is correct; The customization flow advertises the modules as USB4, which is a superset of Thunderbolt 3's capabilities (which itself was a superset of USB 3).
You can usually expect them to work as supersets. But I believe it's possible to implement USB4 without all the Thunderbolt compatibility, and Thunderbolt 3 has some situations where it's not backwards compatible with USB 3.
AFAIK USB4 now mandates Thunderbolt's Type C altmode.
That was Intel's concession on blocking PCI-E 4.0: they wanted to mandate Thunderbolt over Type C as the official external PCI-E interface in enterprise, when the entire industry went with OCuLink instead, due to actually being enterprise-grade (it uses the replacement of the SFF-8644 (multiuse, commonly called MiniSAS HD), the SFF-8611; some mobos use SFF-8644, and SF-8644SFF-8611 cables exist) whereas Type C is not.
When they got their way with USB4 mandating Thunderbolt, PCI-E 4.0 finally was ratified several years late.... PCI-E 4.0 is now so late because of Intel's ridiculous tantrum that only two generations of PC will use it, and the world is proceeding directly to 5.0. Some products have already only exist in 3.0 and (soon to be) 5.0, skipping 4.0 entirely.
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#216Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think 16-32 is the sweet spot. For specific use case I could see 64. But beyond that it would be <.1% of users. Like u would want a thread ripper or 2s at that point
What are some practice applications/usecases for that much (64) memory? I'm in the process of building a PC and I'm trying to figure out what ram size should I go for.
More than a few tabs of Chrome will do it.
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#217I would love to buy one and move away from apple, however, you need to enable international shipping! I imagine (hope) there are others like me.
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#218I would love to buy one and move away from apple, however, you need to enable international shipping! I imagine (hope) there are others like me.
Yeah I'm on the waitlist to see when they release the laptop in Australia. I recall them saying it's expected this year. Happy to be corrected.
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#219Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can't wait to order a frame.work laptop from France :) It will replace my 5 years old Dell Latitude E7480 (extended with third party 32G RAM and 1 TB nvme). And my colleagues in the IT department are also interested, like ifixit it reminds them of 2012 era macbook.
It'd be interesting to see what IT departments think of frame.work laptops - imagine, fixable hardware!
So far indicators are IT groups if a few last and current employers will be loving this product
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#220I'm highly interested in this in my move away from Apple. I have a 2015 MBP 15" that needs replacing and the biggest challenge I see for this to fit the bill is that I'd prefer a 15" to a 13" and to have a better keyboard. I can live with the keyboard it has, because I usually carry a 60% mechanical keyboard with me anyway.
Are there any plans for a 15"? Are there any plans for a Ryzen option? Would love Ryzen + 32GB of RAM + a PCI-E 4.0 nVME drive, would be a nice performance boost.