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I hope the war between Musk and Bezos eventually gets adopted into a poorly conceived movie or TV mini series.
Yes, two billionaires fighting over who gets to pollute the Earth's orbit and send rich people into space for fun while destroying the environment.
This seems on par with the process - SpaceX submits a proposal that is open for public scrutiny, and Amazon, which has the incentives to do so, submits feedback on that proposal. Whether the feedback/concerns from Amazon are warranted, that’s up to the FCC to decide. If they decide incorrectly, that’s when I’d start to bring the torches.
This is slightly off-topic but it always seemed to me that FAANG has a vested interest in making internet access as fast, cheap, and highly available as possible (commoditize your compliment). So I wonder why they went in together on some kind of consortium to make that happen. Google tried their hand a few years ago and didn't get very far, and now it seems like it's Amazon's turn. It would make more sense to me if…
Note that Google has invested in SpaceX around the time when Starlink was starting out, and that they're putting starlink ground stations at Google data centers.
Without getting too spaced-out with the the Bezos-Musk dynamics, I personally hate the idea of having private companies getting on the SpaceX bandwagon and clogging up outer space with thousands of satellites.
I agree: space is a SHARED place... why should some US corp. be able to pollute it ????? And why should US citizen ONLY have something to say about it ???? I can understand that the US may decide what is above its territory, but I surely dont want to MY french nights with Musk or Bezos satellites... and moreover without my consent !
Do you also complain about buildings ruining your french nights? Or billboards? Or traffic noise? Should we ban all automobiles and buildings and outdoor lighting? Should we ban all combustion engines to ensure there's no amount of smog in the air as well?
Satellites are extremely far down on the list of public nuisances and don't serve any threat to our health unlike smog and carbon emissions.
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You fail to make a distinction between following a process and abusing a process. Amazon is clearly abusing the process. It's clear to everyone and their mothers that Amazon is abusing the process. Find me one comment that says "yeah, Amazon is totally right about that and SpaceX should not get the permits they are asking for". Abusing a process warrants a bit different response than "oh well, the rules can be abused…
Another way of looking at this - if you can defend against the most motivated detractor, it seems unlikely there are holes in your plan.
Oh, you've got first-mover advantage? How about I force you into court for the next 6 years while I build a competing product?
A good friend of Bezos' (like his brother maybe) needs to pull him aside and tell him how pathetic and sad this tactic is making him look. He's ruining his reputation among people he needs to recruit, like engineers, who might not otherwise fall for the false Bezos-is-mustache-twirling-capitalist narrative. Bezos actually seems to be a fairly good person with good motivations in general. But he's also extremely compe…
Honestly, I think the main difference between Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos is their PR. Elon Musk portrays himself as an affable nerd who posts memes on Twitter, whereas Bezos has forgone a hair transplant and embraced the Lex Luthor look. In the early days of SpaceX, they filed a lawsuit asking the government to dismantle the company that was their main competitor for EELV[1] and no one blinked an eye. I don't think it…
^[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Launch_Alliance#Formati...
I disdain the owners of both but Bezos (fairly) seems to get a bit more ire here. The Verge’s piece elaborated that SpaceX hasn’t decided between two configurations and want approval for both even though they will only choose one, so everyone else has to plan around two different configurations. I’m not sure if that’s standard procedure but it does seem a bit unfair to add double work for everyone else.
I'll take the eccentric billionaire actually tackling real issues and making actual headway. People here are too narrow minded and have quarter to quarter short term memory disorder, seeming to forget that Musk and Tesla are the sole reason we have had the progress and momentum towards actually greener technologies, not simply greenwashed corporate nonsense that was churned out year after year without any was actual…
His big trucks deliver a few packages daily to one, or two, households.
Those electric fleet commercials seem like PR BS.
If I ever do see an electric truck barreling up my street; I bet they will be heavily subsidized by our tax money in the form of credit.
What is he doing that's green?
That cowboy hat was pure ego, and vanity. Two bald men on a carnival ride might not be good for his single sexy time?
All the money in the world, and you will never know which lady of the night truly loves you? He should have pulled a Zuckerburg.
I bet you could make a fortune doing pay-per-view streaming from that room.
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Its mostly a Musk trying to do things and Bezos trying to stop him. A war would consider them attacking each other. I have not seen a single lawsuit or complaint filed by SpaceX against BlueOrigin or Amazon. The certainty point out in their defense that Amazon is full of shit, but to my knowledge they have not issued complaints about Kupiter.
SpaceX actually did file a lawsuit against the Air Force for awarding contracts to ULA which is using Blue Origin's engines. And lost. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-space-spacex-lawsuit/musk... https://www.reuters.com/article/us-space-spacex-airforce/spa... To some extent this is just how the business of government contracting is done. That said, I don't think it's right and Bezos is clearly worse. I doubt we'll…
That is why I specifically said:
> I have not seen a single lawsuit or complaint filed by SpaceX against BlueOrigin or Amazon.
I would argue SpaceX lawsuits prevented monopolistic process by NASA and Dod and allowed competition. BO profits from that and was able to compete and lost.
I think these are qualitatively different from the lawsuits BO is launching.
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> But cars are only responsible for a tiny fraction of CO2 Road vehicles account for 5% of global CO2 emissions. That's not a tiny fraction IMO. It's not huge, but road transportation alone (not counting shipping) account for 5X as much CO2 aviation. https://ourworldindata.org/co2-emissions-from-transport
In the context of the statement, ("sole reason..") I call it tiny. I mean cars are very visible, so any movement there helps with the public image that things can change. But he still was only one player in a comparitivly small segment, when green technology is so much bigger than just "cars". And "green cars" was and is much more than just "Tesla".