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Post by BoxOfRain »

tristor wrote: post #173
BoxOfRain wrote: post #130

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Finding a good Mac-layout mechanical keyboard that I liked was a total chore, I eventually got the Vinpok Taptek which I'm really pleased with but I can't find replacement keycaps for the life of me.

I... don't understand this. I've been using exclusively mechanical keyboards since the very early 90s, and I've been using nearly-exclusively Macs since the very early 2000s. I've never had an issue here. Mechanical keyboards, as a general rule, are programmable, and have swappable keycaps. It's a simple matter to swap the keycaps if you are adjusted to the Windows mandated keyboard layout ordering and how that's map…

Judging by yours and the sibling comments it would appear that my research into the subject of mechanical keyboards a couple of years ago was somewhat lacking!

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Post by eikenberry »

dredmorbius wrote: post #151

With alternatives such as System76 and the modular Framework laptop emerging, as well as low-cost systems from Pine, Lenovo's claim as the default preferred choice of the Linux/*BSD and power-user set is very rapidly evaporating. I've bought Thinkpads personally and professionally for 20 years. Idiotic cunning stunts such as this and Superfish have removed it from any future consideration.

Until System76 moves beyond the branded Clevo's they will not be able to compete with Thinkpads. They've talked about an internally developed laptop before, but still no sign of it.

The Framework laptops have the most potential right now IMO. I'm watching them to see how things go and will probably pick up a second gen of their laptops if they keep looking good.

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Post by dvdkon »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #174
neogodless wrote: post #150

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Anecdote: Over the past few years, I've owned an Asus laptop (thin/light), two Lenovo laptops, and an HP. Before that, a large Dell gaming laptop. Most recently, I had bought the HP Omen 15, but realizing that the screen used PWM below 100% brightness, I sold it and bought a Lenovo Legion 5. The previous Lenovo is a Y540. The Y540 is arguably "good but not great" build quality. If you squint, it looks kind of like th…

> realizing that the screen used PWM below 100% brightness Isn't that the normal way to dim an LED? Was the frequency too low, or what was the issue?

Yes, it's about the frequency and filtering. Some screens use ridiculously low switching frequencies that mean the resulting signal can't be filtered out with anything that would fit in a thin laptop.

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Post by trynewideas »

neogodless wrote: post #150
elric wrote: post #29

Gentle reminder that Lenovo jumped the shark quite a while ago. The whole Superfish debacle, the spyware, the crapware, the endless stream of shitty decisions. Year after year, the hardware gets worse. Customer support gets worse. The sad thing is that they're still better than everything else out there. Which says a lot about the laptop industry in general.

Anecdote: Over the past few years, I've owned an Asus laptop (thin/light), two Lenovo laptops, and an HP. Before that, a large Dell gaming laptop. Most recently, I had bought the HP Omen 15, but realizing that the screen used PWM below 100% brightness, I sold it and bought a Lenovo Legion 5. The previous Lenovo is a Y540. The Y540 is arguably "good but not great" build quality. If you squint, it looks kind of like th…

I had a bad run of three Lenovo laptops and gave up on the brand completely after years of being an IBM/ThinkPad fan: a ThinkPad P40 (pen digitizer and power connector failures), a Yoga 720 15" (SSD, touch digitizer, and internal wi-fi failed), and a Legion 7 (known hinge design issue leading to failure).

I know the Legion 5 is good, which is why I (foolishly) thought the Legion 7 would also be good. It's the inconsistency within and across their product lines, and their god-awful depot support, that's made it a game of Russian Roulette to buy a Lenovo device — some people still swear by them because they either luck into, or do the deep research to find, the very specific models within certain lines that aren't failure-prone.

The 720 and Legion 7 failed within weeks, not months, and the 720 went to the depot twice and had at least one repeat or new failure within weeks after returning each time.

The P40 broke my heart the worst, though, because it had every feature I wanted and I paid through the nose for it thinking it'd be a 5-year device, minimum. It didn't make it to 2, couldn't get a refund, and didn't have the heart to sell it even for parts.

The 720 and Legion, though, failed so quickly that I got refunds from their retailers; I couldn't possibly resell them, and with the Legion 7 in particular I wasn't going to gamble with their depot service rejecting warranty coverage for the fault as people were reporting on Lenovo's own forums, and especially after the touch digitizer failed after the _second_ depot service for the 720.

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Post by dvdkon »

gruez wrote: post #172
NathanielK wrote: post #82

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FWIW, Intel has been forcing manufacturers hand when it comes to thickness. Since their high performance laptop processors have stagnated on the last decade, they've created programs to encourage thin laptops. Both the old "Intel Ultrabook" and the new "Intel Evo" tightly restrict thickness in the 12-14" laptop segment. I won't give Lenovo a free pass, but it's part of why keytravel and cooling solutions are pretty a…

>Both the old "Intel Ultrabook" and the new "Intel Evo" tightly restrict thickness in the 12-14" laptop segment. How do those programs work? Do you need to meet a certain thickness to get called an ultrabook? Why can't manufacturers just opt out and make a notebook without "ultrabook" slapped on it?

Trademarks. Also, manufacturers might get money from parts makers (the big three mostly) for marketing using their trademarks, which means they need to meet the parts maker's conditions to get "free money".

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Post by asddubs »

Syonyk wrote: post #166
linguae wrote: post #78

This is despicable, and it's indicative of a trend I've been noticing over the years. Personal computing used to be about user empowerment. Today it seems to me that many tech companies treat their users as nothing more than either "eyeballs" to show ads to or as cows to be milked through vendor lock-in and subscription services. Either way, I feel the user experience has degraded in recent years, and I feel we incre…

Alternatives certainly exist - I've been moving myself rapidly in that direction after my nearly 20 years of Apple use has come to an end (at a remarkably low sysadmin-hours-per-year level, that's going to go up substantially). Unfortunately, most of them aren't quite ready for standard daily driver use. I've been daily driving a PineBook Pro, and despite some custom kernel hacking I've done, I still don't have relia…

>I really should upstream the sleep changes

Please do!

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Post by Dylan16807 »

tehjoker wrote: post #30
elric wrote: post #22

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Digital TV in Belgium now includes unskippable ads, including in recordings of those shows. The reason why people switched to digital TV subscriptions, of course, was to be able to skip those ads in the first place. Apparently Netflix can afford to offer a wide variety of content for a small monthly fee, without any ads, and spend money on content creation; but digital TV stations somehow don't make enough money off…

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I wonder who found this offensive/flamebait enough to flag you, wow.

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Post by varelse »

qwerty456127 wrote: post #203
gigel82 wrote: post #24

Lenovo left a sour taste for me after they pushed a BIOS update through Windows Update on my daughter's Flex that bricked the device (in the middle of a school-week, while she was doing online school). There were dozens of reports of the same problem from other owners of that model, yet they refused to acknowledge the issue was theirs or offer any self-serve option (I remember most laptops nowadays can re-flash the B…

> will never purchase another Lenovo product again. Even a ThinkPad?

You mean a laptop in 2021 that still only supports 1920x1080 resolution without a docking station? Or did they finally fix that nonsense?

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Post by userbinator »

Silhouette wrote: post #208
GekkePrutser wrote: post #199

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> "You can dismiss this 1 more time" - why? It's my device I paid for it. That's not just mobiles either.. Windows 10 does the same :( Sure it's nice for the average joe soap not turning their machine into a botnet node but I hate coming back to my PC and find it has rebooted while it was running some task for me.. Grrrr.

Sure it's nice for the average joe soap not turning their machine into a botnet node It is, but we should really stop tolerating that as an argument for mandatory updates. Enabling security updates by default on Windows editions not intended to be professionally managed would be sufficient to achieve most or all of the same benefits without imposing the much-criticised costs to users. The same argument holds for othe…

I'm pretty convinced that people in the big corps are using "security" as the excuse to shove in whatever else they want, just because they can.

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Post by fomine3 »

varelse wrote: post #218
qwerty456127 wrote: post #203

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> will never purchase another Lenovo product again. Even a ThinkPad?

You mean a laptop in 2021 that still only supports 1920x1080 resolution without a docking station? Or did they finally fix that nonsense?

You look wrong model.
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