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Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t compete, SpaceX says

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Re: Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t compete, SpaceX says

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You can't focus on your competitors when you don't have competitors. Has Amazon, the website, any competitors? They have an unique proposition, like Apple

Yup, Walmart seems the obvious comparison, at least for retail. Much of what you'll find on Amazon, you can find there, including fast, free shipping.

Can you buy things like high end bike parts on Walmart? Or addidas running shoes? Honest question

Re: Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t compete, SpaceX says

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This is slightly off-topic but it always seemed to me that FAANG has a vested interest in making internet access as fast, cheap, and highly available as possible (commoditize your compliment). So I wonder why they went in together on some kind of consortium to make that happen. Google tried their hand a few years ago and didn't get very far, and now it seems like it's Amazon's turn. It would make more sense to me if they pooled their resources together, but I guess that's easier said than done.

Re: Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t compete, SpaceX says

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Yup, Walmart seems the obvious comparison, at least for retail. Much of what you'll find on Amazon, you can find there, including fast, free shipping.

Can you buy things like high end bike parts on Walmart? Or addidas running shoes? Honest question

Walmart.com has third-party sellers, same as Amazon. Both those things are available.

Re: Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t compete, SpaceX says

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Why? My impression was that the low orbits used by Starlink and similar are the best place for this since it will all naturally deorbit on short timescales. It's just space who cares if we clog it up some with more useful things.

Because you think that being able to read twitter between two ads is "more useful" than watching a pure night sky ???? Maybe you should think about what is really "useful" for you... and what other people find "useful"

You can't see starlink satellites with the naked eye once they are in their operational orbit. I'm sure many people find it useful to be able to attend school: https://www.pcmag.com/news/native-american-tribe-gets-early-...

Re: Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t compete, SpaceX says

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~2d was intended to imply effectively 2d for human activities, even airspace is probably closer to a layered 2d cake than true 3d like deeper space. LEO may be closer to an extension of airspace due to orbits and gravity. Still, due to the exponential growth with respect to the radius, there is significant room in LEO compared to anything terrestrial.

How does this differeniate space and the ocean in your mind? Humans cannot survive in either without some sort of vessel to provide a suitable environment.

My GGGP point was about "clogging" space with satellites, not about habitation. Space is so large that 100K's of satellites is still not clogged. I believe the SpaceX and AWS constellations are planned to get us pretty close to 100k iirc

Re: Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t compete, SpaceX says

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post #92

This is slightly off-topic but it always seemed to me that FAANG has a vested interest in making internet access as fast, cheap, and highly available as possible (commoditize your compliment). So I wonder why they went in together on some kind of consortium to make that happen. Google tried their hand a few years ago and didn't get very far, and now it seems like it's Amazon's turn. It would make more sense to me if…

Note that Google has invested in SpaceX around the time when Starlink was starting out, and that they're putting starlink ground stations at Google data centers.

Re: Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t compete, SpaceX says

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Amazing, we now have sky NIMBYs complaining about satellites hindering views.

just because you live in a place where you can't even see the night sky doesn't mean other people should be robbed of their view.

No one lives in a place where they can see starlink satellites with their naked eye once they are in operational orbit.

Re: Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t compete, SpaceX says

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Yup, Walmart seems the obvious comparison, at least for retail. Much of what you'll find on Amazon, you can find there, including fast, free shipping.

Can you buy things like high end bike parts on Walmart? Or addidas running shoes? Honest question

Honest answer - maybe. Amazon is so rampant with fraud parts[1] and shoes it's hard to know there as well. Best to buy "nice" things elsewhere than Amazon.

For me 100% no-go on Amazon is anything that goes in or on your body, like lotion and vitamins. Coin-flip you get a fake since almost anyone has the means to produce fraud.

[1] https://www.bikeforums.net/general-cycling-discussion/120619...

Re: Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t compete, SpaceX says

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This is pretty dirty from SpaceX. They make this about Amazon by saying Kuiper ("Amazon"). Just because SpaceX calls them "Amazon" in their press release does not make this about Amazon.

Or am I missing something and is this really an Amazon endeavor?

Re: Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t compete, SpaceX says

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This is pretty dirty from SpaceX. They make this about Amazon by saying Kuiper ("Amazon"). Just because SpaceX calls them "Amazon" in their press release does not make this about Amazon. Or am I missing something and is this really an Amazon endeavor?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuiper_Systems

"Kuiper Systems LLC is a subsidiary of Amazon that was set up in 2019 to deploy a large broadband satellite internet constellation to provide broadband internet connectivity."

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