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Does anyone actually buy Lenovos after what happened with SuperFish? [0] [0] https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/superfish-to...

ThinkPads are still the name of the game for enterprise laptop deployments. AFAIK, they don't contain any preloaded stuff beyond the OEM app (Lenovo Vantage). Some enterprises prefer the more stripped down Lenovo System Update instead, although I think users may need Vantage to change some hotkey, etc. settings. Still, for a business with stricter security standards, it would be ideal to do a clean reimage of all new…

I don't think I saw any last time I strolled on University Ave.

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The users were given the choice between accepting the endless lists of t&c's or using the tablet as an expensive paperweight. Lenovo is clearly in the right here. It's their software being used and if users are not happy they can just walk away. And how do you know that people don't find ads helpful?

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This is despicable, and it's indicative of a trend I've been noticing over the years. Personal computing used to be about user empowerment. Today it seems to me that many tech companies treat their users as nothing more than either "eyeballs" to show ads to or as cows to be milked through vendor lock-in and subscription services. Either way, I feel the user experience has degraded in recent years, and I feel we incre…

Alternatives certainly exist - I've been moving myself rapidly in that direction after my nearly 20 years of Apple use has come to an end (at a remarkably low sysadmin-hours-per-year level, that's going to go up substantially). Unfortunately, most of them aren't quite ready for standard daily driver use. I've been daily driving a PineBook Pro, and despite some custom kernel hacking I've done, I still don't have relia…

You're right... But we don't live in a vacuum. I can try to live without WhatsApp but literally everyone in Europe uses it. It's just unavoidable. And that's just one example.

So, I still go the trouble to bend the ecosystems to my will... Like Matrix bridges. It's a lot of work I'll give you that.

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You can use adb to remove this kind of crap without having to root the device, can't you? pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.spam.bloatware

For that you need to know the offending APK ID in the first place, and you need to enable ADB access, and install a piece of software on your computer. Seriously, this shit is inexcusable.

And you don't really remove it. You just deactivate it, and only for the main user.

If you do it without --user 0 it will actually uninstall it, but this only works for non-system apps and most manufacturers mark all their crap/spyware as system of course. Sigh...

Re: Lenovo tablet forced update shows un-dismissable, un-mutable, ad notifications

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The users were given the choice between accepting the endless lists of t&c's or using the tablet as an expensive paperweight. Lenovo is clearly in the right here. It's their software being used and if users are not happy they can just walk away. And how do you know that people don't find ads helpful?

I'm not sure if this is a joke or just another person from the ad industry desperately trying to justify their moral free behaviour.

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Loving my XPS 13 running ubuntu since 2018. Trackpad is great and I still get enough battery life to use for browsing at work all day edit: sorry, I just remembered -- I did have to replace the SSD on this thing when it conked out in 2019! fortunately I bought it refurbished with a warranty of some sort and they shipped a new one fast.

Thank you for replying. I don't mean this as a dig at you or your choices but from a cursory glance that model has a significantly worse screen, a weird nose-and-finger webcam on the bottom of the screen, negligible price and spec differences (or probably a much worse value proposition compared to an M1 if you're ok with macOS and ARM), a touchpad which is pretty certain to be worse than Apple's, and a plastic body i…

> nose-and-finger webcam on the bottom of the screen

FWIW, I believe they've fixed this in recent revisions, as well as added a 16:10 ratio screen.

This is one of the very few laptops I'd consider vs a macbook at this point, especially given the preinstalled linux option.

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Gentle reminder that Lenovo jumped the shark quite a while ago. The whole Superfish debacle, the spyware, the crapware, the endless stream of shitty decisions. Year after year, the hardware gets worse. Customer support gets worse. The sad thing is that they're still better than everything else out there. Which says a lot about the laptop industry in general.

> The sad thing is that they're still better than everything else out there. They haven't ever been better than Apple laptop hardware, even in Intel-land. There seems to be this common bias in PC laptop evaluation that excludes Apple machines from consideration when doing comparisons. Apple makes the best x64 laptops, and has for years. Sadly, they will stop soon.

Maybe for certain subsets of the user group. I don't like the dongle-hell that is the Apple laptop line. I'll take my Lenovo or Dell laptop that has RJ45, multiple usb ports, and more. I also prefer a physical laptop dock (not USB3), but I always had such a headache with them for linux support.

Apple laptops are always a fair bit pricier for a given set of hw specs than any other manufacturer would be.

Additionally, they lack any level of reparability and a trip to the genius bar will often be quite expensive. Hell, look at the debacle that was the butterfly keyboard they pushed for something like 5-6 years.

Apple's keyboards, even before/after the butterfly keyboard, are inferior (in my opinion) than the keyboard on the Thinkpad line, and feel quite mushy by comparison.

The aluminum construction is quite solid, but not without it's issues. They seem to get far hotter in my experience, but perhaps that's them acting as heat sink so I'll give that a pass. The hard edges on the case are a pain-point to me.

I know a lot of people seem to prefer the apple touchpads, but I've never liked them. I prefer physical mouse buttons, and the click never felt right to me on apple touchpads. Part of it might be that gesture inputs with the touchpads aggravated my RSI, so I was never able to make use of them.

All said, I don't agree with Apple making the best x64 laptops, but they fielded a competitor like many others. They have the advantage of being the only true Apple laptop though, so if you're all-in on the Apple ecosystem, they're definitely the best choice. Otherwise, there are many laptops that might surpass the macbooks, depending on your individual preferences.

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Can I run Linux on them? Can I get them with keyboards that aren't awful? Can I get them with next-business-day-on-site warranty? Not trying to be snarky here, I haven't owned an Apple product since the iMac, so I literally don't know. But I suspect the answer is "no".

Um, trackpads suck.

Agreed but as far as trackpads go, Apple does do them the best.

I always bring a mouse, I hate the little nubs even more :)

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Same with my samsung tablet forcing itself to update. "You can dismiss this 1 more time" - why? It's my device I paid for it. It's very tiresome. What device can I buy that's just mine to do as I please. On desktop I'm already on Linux Mint. Looking for alts for phone and tablet.

> "You can dismiss this 1 more time" - why? It's my device I paid for it.

That's not just mobiles either.. Windows 10 does the same :(

Sure it's nice for the average joe soap not turning their machine into a botnet node but I hate coming back to my PC and find it has rebooted while it was running some task for me.. Grrrr.

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I have always liked the keyboard more. My opinion is that Apple prioritizes how the keyboard looks and how thin it is over the actual function and experience of using it. It blows my mind that people buy their desktop keyboard which is basically a laptop keyboard in small case. I believe the ability to repair or swap components has always been better with Lenovo. Apple beats Lenovo in a lot of other ways though, audi…

Finding a good Mac-layout mechanical keyboard that I liked was a total chore, I eventually got the Vinpok Taptek which I'm really pleased with but I can't find replacement keycaps for the life of me.

I recently picked up a keychron k3, and am mostly satisfied.

https://www.keychron.com/pages/keychron-k3-wireless-mechanic...

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