I hope the war between Musk and Bezos eventually gets adopted into a poorly conceived movie or TV mini series.
As long as the final battle takes place on Mars, I'd watch that.
You're giving Bezos a lot of credit on actually being able to get there.
Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t compete, SpaceX says
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Re: Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t compete, SpaceX says
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The ocean is most certainly 3D. The surface is 2D.
~2d was intended to imply effectively 2d for human activities, even airspace is probably closer to a layered 2d cake than true 3d like deeper space. LEO may be closer to an extension of airspace due to orbits and gravity. Still, due to the exponential growth with respect to the radius, there is significant room in LEO compared to anything terrestrial.
How does this differeniate space and the ocean in your mind? Humans cannot survive in either without some sort of vessel to provide a suitable environment.
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Not OP, but I can think of two reasons – too many LEO satellites can actually hinder views of the night sky[0] and additionally, the risk of kessler syndrome[1]. I'm in no way equipped to give a scientific risk assessment of either, so I'll defer to others to share if they feel it's major concern. But whether these are present issues or not, they're worth considering and thinking about as we move forward with more LE…
Amazing, we now have sky NIMBYs complaining about satellites hindering views.
just because you live in a place where you can't even see the night sky doesn't mean other people should be robbed of their view.
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But it does have material impact on others. The Starlink constellations in this proposal are large, and any future development by others will have to account for the orbits of these potential constellations. That's 30k new objects to plan for, and with two configurations at play, that means accounting for essentially 60k objects in motion, effectively doubling the work someone would have to do to plan their deploymen…
If there is limited space, why shouldn't it be first come first serve? Anyways, it is my impression that space is kinda big..
First come first serve becomes a lot less beneficial when you start trying to get things off the planet, or see things with this many obstructions.
Re: Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t compete, SpaceX says
#85A good friend of Bezos' (like his brother maybe) needs to pull him aside and tell him how pathetic and sad this tactic is making him look. He's ruining his reputation among people he needs to recruit, like engineers, who might not otherwise fall for the false Bezos-is-mustache-twirling-capitalist narrative. Bezos actually seems to be a fairly good person with good motivations in general. But he's also extremely compe…
I'm not so sure that dichotomy holds up.
Jobs and Musk may have outcompeted their rivals, but both have been notorious for taking advantage of employees as well as anti-competitive practices in multiple cases. Not to mention Musk taking advantage of customers with misleading and at times unsafe products like self driving.
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If they're on LEO, what's the big deal? Starlink's satellites have a lifetime of around 10 years before they get pulled back into the atmosphere by gravity.
> before they get pulled back into the atmosphere by gravity. Irrelevant to the point, but: It's more that they get pulled further down into atmosphere by... atmosphere. With just gravity alone, they'd stay perfectly in orbit.
I think they get pulled down by the combination of atmosphere and gravity. As you pointed out, gravity alone is not sufficient. But also, if there's only an atmosphere but no gravity, they don't get pulled down.
Re: Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t compete, SpaceX says
#87Amazon always claims to focus on its customers, and ignore its competitors, this is supposed to be an important facet of the "Its always Day 1" philosophy. These actions, along with Amazon's complaints about Jedi contract seem to imply that amazon has now entered day 2. PS: I understand that the circumstances around the Jedi contract are different. I'm just trying to make a point that Amazon is now focussing more on…
You can't focus on your competitors when you don't have competitors. Has Amazon, the website, any competitors? They have an unique proposition, like Apple
Yup, Walmart seems the obvious comparison, at least for retail. Much of what you'll find on Amazon, you can find there, including fast, free shipping.
Re: Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t compete, SpaceX says
#88Amazon always claims to focus on its customers, and ignore its competitors, this is supposed to be an important facet of the "Its always Day 1" philosophy. These actions, along with Amazon's complaints about Jedi contract seem to imply that amazon has now entered day 2. PS: I understand that the circumstances around the Jedi contract are different. I'm just trying to make a point that Amazon is now focussing more on…
You can't focus on your competitors when you don't have competitors. Has Amazon, the website, any competitors? They have an unique proposition, like Apple
Amazon and Apple have both taken ordinary products (the computer, the book, the cell-phone, the convenience store) and commoditized them using the power of the internet. No foul play yet, but the issues start when they begin gaslighting the little guys: Apple's biggest concern is their development ecosystem right now, and Amazon's biggest concern is antitrust commissions. Frame it however you like, but they still 'compete' with their traditional analogs, be it indirectly or directly. The mindset you're encouraging is the one that drives Tesla shares to $1k a pop, solely because "they're not like other auto manufacturers!"
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You fail to make a distinction between following a process and abusing a process. Amazon is clearly abusing the process. It's clear to everyone and their mothers that Amazon is abusing the process. Find me one comment that says "yeah, Amazon is totally right about that and SpaceX should not get the permits they are asking for". Abusing a process warrants a bit different response than "oh well, the rules can be abused…
Yeah, seeking the limits of the law. When a human does it, we typically call them an asshole. However, when a company does it, it's totally fine.
It is almost like the primary value provided by a company is of being a social obfuscation layer to avoid moral responsibilities that would be obvious if it was replaced with an individual.