UK national extradited to US for film/TV piracy
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Re: UK national extradited to US for film/TV piracy
#2> "for his involvement in the Sparks Group, an international piracy group that illegally distributed movies and television shows on the Internet."
(from the announcement) in case you were wondering if this was some "simple" torrent usage or what...
> "In furtherance of its scheme, the Sparks Group fraudulently obtained copyrighted DVDs and Blu-Ray discs from wholesale distributors in advance of their retail release date by, among other things, making various misrepresentations to the wholesale distributors concerning the reasons that they were obtaining the discs prior to the retail release date."
Re: UK national extradited to US for film/TV piracy
#3> "for his involvement in the Sparks Group, an international piracy group that illegally distributed movies and television shows on the Internet." (from the announcement) in case you were wondering if this was some "simple" torrent usage or what... > "In furtherance of its scheme, the Sparks Group fraudulently obtained copyrighted DVDs and Blu-Ray discs from wholesale distributors in advance of their retail release d…
They bought DVDs with a paper trail, shipped them internationally, ripped them and then uploaded to scene sites with photos of the retail packaging. Not difficult to see how they got caught.
One can't help but feel sorry for them. Commercial copyright infringement in the states probably carries a $1e308 financial penalty and/or life imprisonment. The fact that the article is written about a UK national just highlights the asymmetry in the treaty – meanwhile, US citizens can literally get away with manslaughter [1] without being extradited...
[1] https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-5122826...
Re: UK national extradited to US for film/TV piracy
#4> "for his involvement in the Sparks Group, an international piracy group that illegally distributed movies and television shows on the Internet." (from the announcement) in case you were wondering if this was some "simple" torrent usage or what... > "In furtherance of its scheme, the Sparks Group fraudulently obtained copyrighted DVDs and Blu-Ray discs from wholesale distributors in advance of their retail release d…
They bought DVDs with a paper trail, shipped them internationally, ripped them and then uploaded to scene sites with photos of the retail packaging. Not difficult to see how they got caught. One can't help but feel sorry for them. Commercial copyright infringement in the states probably carries a $1e308 financial penalty and/or life imprisonment. The fact that the article is written about a UK national just highlight…
Your comparison between vehicular homicide and commercial copyright infringement would work better if the perpetrator of the former were not protected by diplomatic immunity.
Re: UK national extradited to US for film/TV piracy
#5Earlier quoted context omitted.
They bought DVDs with a paper trail, shipped them internationally, ripped them and then uploaded to scene sites with photos of the retail packaging. Not difficult to see how they got caught. One can't help but feel sorry for them. Commercial copyright infringement in the states probably carries a $1e308 financial penalty and/or life imprisonment. The fact that the article is written about a UK national just highlight…
Your comparison between vehicular homicide and commercial copyright infringement would work better if the perpetrator of the former were not protected by diplomatic immunity.
Why is this greying out? It's an obvious and legitimate difference that isn't just "hur dur treaty biased for the Americans".
Re: UK national extradited to US for film/TV piracy
#6Earlier quoted context omitted.
They bought DVDs with a paper trail, shipped them internationally, ripped them and then uploaded to scene sites with photos of the retail packaging. Not difficult to see how they got caught. One can't help but feel sorry for them. Commercial copyright infringement in the states probably carries a $1e308 financial penalty and/or life imprisonment. The fact that the article is written about a UK national just highlight…
Your comparison between vehicular homicide and commercial copyright infringement would work better if the perpetrator of the former were not protected by diplomatic immunity.
Oooh it's kickin off now.
Re: UK national extradited to US for film/TV piracy
#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
They bought DVDs with a paper trail, shipped them internationally, ripped them and then uploaded to scene sites with photos of the retail packaging. Not difficult to see how they got caught. One can't help but feel sorry for them. Commercial copyright infringement in the states probably carries a $1e308 financial penalty and/or life imprisonment. The fact that the article is written about a UK national just highlight…
Your comparison between vehicular homicide and commercial copyright infringement would work better if the perpetrator of the former were not protected by diplomatic immunity.
> Anne Sacoolas was not entitled to diplomatic immunity, as her husband was not listed as a diplomat.
Re: UK national extradited to US for film/TV piracy
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
They bought DVDs with a paper trail, shipped them internationally, ripped them and then uploaded to scene sites with photos of the retail packaging. Not difficult to see how they got caught. One can't help but feel sorry for them. Commercial copyright infringement in the states probably carries a $1e308 financial penalty and/or life imprisonment. The fact that the article is written about a UK national just highlight…
Your comparison between vehicular homicide and commercial copyright infringement would work better if the perpetrator of the former were not protected by diplomatic immunity.
> protected by diplomatic immunity
Aah yes, about that "diplomatic immunity" ...
(1) "In court papers, the former Foreign Office (FCO) minister Tony Baldry said the diplomatic immunity deal reached in 1995 was intended specifically to exclude dangerous driving cases, or indeed any actions not related to the work of the staff at the base"[1]
(2) Even if (1) were not the case, there have been documented cases where the US has "put pressure" on genuine diplomats working on US soil who have committed offences in order to be able to prosecute in the US (something about a Georgian diplomat in 1997 IIRC). Why should the rest of the world be subjected to "do as I say, but not as I do" with the US ?
(3) What about that stupid "surprise surprise" show Trump attempted to put on at the Whitehouse ? I mean that's just sticking two-fingers up in the air to the UK family by saying "well, you can meet the perpetrator who's waiting in the next room ... ready to shed some crocodile tears for the cameras".
[1]https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jun/22/anne-sacoola...
Re: UK national extradited to US for film/TV piracy
#9> "for his involvement in the Sparks Group, an international piracy group that illegally distributed movies and television shows on the Internet." (from the announcement) in case you were wondering if this was some "simple" torrent usage or what... > "In furtherance of its scheme, the Sparks Group fraudulently obtained copyrighted DVDs and Blu-Ray discs from wholesale distributors in advance of their retail release d…
They bought DVDs with a paper trail, shipped them internationally, ripped them and then uploaded to scene sites with photos of the retail packaging. Not difficult to see how they got caught. One can't help but feel sorry for them. Commercial copyright infringement in the states probably carries a $1e308 financial penalty and/or life imprisonment. The fact that the article is written about a UK national just highlight…
No, it doesn't show much of anything about the US-UK treaty because that treaty wasn't used. They were extradited from Cyprus, which is noted in the article (reproduced below). I would agree that the handling of the Sacoolas situation was very problematic.
> OIA also provided critical support in working with Eurojust and Europol in planning the coordinated operation in August 2020 and provided critical assistance in securing the defendant’s extradition from Cyprus.
Re: UK national extradited to US for film/TV piracy
#10But hey, a diplomat killing a kid? Nah the US can't give them to the UK to face justice.