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Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t compete, SpaceX says

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Re: Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t compete, SpaceX says

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I disdain the owners of both but Bezos (fairly) seems to get a bit more ire here. The Verge’s piece elaborated that SpaceX hasn’t decided between two configurations and want approval for both even though they will only choose one, so everyone else has to plan around two different configurations.

I’m not sure if that’s standard procedure but it does seem a bit unfair to add double work for everyone else.

Re: Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t compete, SpaceX says

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I can't guess why Bezos does what he does but have to give him credit for not going the Soros route...WP aside of course.

If I were him, I'd avoid anything Musk (who sucks all the air out of the room) is involved in. Build the worlds biggest telescope, work on advanced propulsion technology for launch or interplanetary spacecraft, there's a lot of cool things out there. I doubt that the first investor in anything really cutting edge is going to make a profit, so look for the wow factor.

Re: Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t compete, SpaceX says

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I can't guess why Bezos does what he does but have to give him credit for not going the Soros route...WP aside of course. If I were him, I'd avoid anything Musk (who sucks all the air out of the room) is involved in. Build the worlds biggest telescope, work on advanced propulsion technology for launch or interplanetary spacecraft, there's a lot of cool things out there. I doubt that the first investor in anything rea…

This is Eric Berger's take as well - for example, second stage propulsion, in-space manufacturing for his Dyson cylinders vision, lunar habs would be so much cooler.

Re: Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t compete, SpaceX says

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I disdain the owners of both but Bezos (fairly) seems to get a bit more ire here. The Verge’s piece elaborated that SpaceX hasn’t decided between two configurations and want approval for both even though they will only choose one, so everyone else has to plan around two different configurations. I’m not sure if that’s standard procedure but it does seem a bit unfair to add double work for everyone else.

It's a bit of a stretch to say they haven't decided; one depends on Starship being approved for launch (and working) in the right timeframe, and the other just uses Falcon 9s.

I don't think regulators should force companies to be conservative in unrelated technical development when it doesn't have any material impact on others.

Re: Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t compete, SpaceX says

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Even with his billions, Jeff Bezos is such a sore loser. This is just like him whining and moaning about losing JEDI to Microsoft. A contract literally written for Amazon to win . Elon Musk is trying to push the boundaries of what humans do, yet he's got this remarkable jealous space cowboy as a thorn in his side. A hundred problems and now this. I can't imagine the weight on his shoulders. What a sick joke. Amazon h…

Amazon is also very connected in Washington. Hell, Bezos owns the Washington Post. Witness the litigation they got the government to investigate Apple for ebook and got a settlement, when Amazon was the elephant in the room.

Yeah this was truly an abomination. Everything Apple got in trouble for was undeniably illegal and the verdict was justified - but I'd argue the outcome wasn't. Even as an Apple customer, I'll state the "iBooks experience" is clearly shit in almost every way compared to Amazon - yet they get slapped down and Amazon doesn't. The 800-pound gorilla became the 8000-pound now.

Re: Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t compete, SpaceX says

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This seems on par with the process - SpaceX submits a proposal that is open for public scrutiny, and Amazon, which has the incentives to do so, submits feedback on that proposal. Whether the feedback/concerns from Amazon are warranted, that’s up to the FCC to decide. If they decide incorrectly, that’s when I’d start to bring the torches.

This seems on par with the process - Amazon submits feedback and the general public who are sick of Amazon's practices submit feedback via pitchforks and torches.

We are within our rights to call out Amazon before, after and during FCC review.

Re: Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t compete, SpaceX says

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Without getting too spaced-out with the the Bezos-Musk dynamics, I personally hate the idea of having private companies getting on the SpaceX bandwagon and clogging up outer space with thousands of satellites.

Why?

My impression was that the low orbits used by Starlink and similar are the best place for this since it will all naturally deorbit on short timescales.

It's just space who cares if we clog it up some with more useful things.

Re: Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t compete, SpaceX says

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Without getting too spaced-out with the the Bezos-Musk dynamics, I personally hate the idea of having private companies getting on the SpaceX bandwagon and clogging up outer space with thousands of satellites.

That must have been how people felt when railroads and highways were built for the first time.

Re: Amazon asked FCC to reject Starlink plan because it can’t compete, SpaceX says

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Without getting too spaced-out with the the Bezos-Musk dynamics, I personally hate the idea of having private companies getting on the SpaceX bandwagon and clogging up outer space with thousands of satellites.

I personally hate the idea of holding back rural connectivity, mapping, and the general advancement of space-based science and industry in order to preserve the sacrosanct emptiness of certain orbits. Why should your desire for empty orbits outweigh other peoples' desire to put those orbits to productive use?
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