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Gentle reminder that Lenovo jumped the shark quite a while ago. The whole Superfish debacle, the spyware, the crapware, the endless stream of shitty decisions. Year after year, the hardware gets worse. Customer support gets worse. The sad thing is that they're still better than everything else out there. Which says a lot about the laptop industry in general.

I run a recent X1 Extreme (Gen 2) with Fedora as OS and aside from the the weird naming have zero complaints about it.

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This is despicable, and it's indicative of a trend I've been noticing over the years. Personal computing used to be about user empowerment. Today it seems to me that many tech companies treat their users as nothing more than either "eyeballs" to show ads to or as cows to be milked through vendor lock-in and subscription services. Either way, I feel the user experience has degraded in recent years, and I feel we incre…

> Thankfully alternatives exist. Linux and the BSDs keep evolving, Haiku and ReactOS continue to develop and may one day reach daily-driver status, there's still a thriving market for building your own x86-64 PCs (I'll be building a Ryzen 9 machine this weekend), and products like the Framework laptop, the PineBook, and the Librem laptop have me excited. Hopefully these alternatives will continue to evolve and take root so that way there's a formidable challenger to Big Tech.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure the response would be something like "oh we gave you a discount on it when you purchased it for $399 instead of $1399. It's all in the EULA you agreed to when you first got your device."

That's exactly the logic Amazon uses for their Fire tablets. You can get them cheaper if you agree to have ads baked into the lock screen at a firmware level.

This also applies to their Kindle devices, I believe removing the ads cost $20.

Re: Lenovo tablet forced update shows un-dismissable, un-mutable, ad notifications

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Between this, and a few other examples below, I can't help but notice a not-so-great trend among Chinese tech brands:

1. OnePlus: https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/hds41u/oneplus_has...

2. Xiaomi: https://www.androidauthority.com/remove-ads-xiaomi-miui-1019...

3. Huawei: https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/06/14/huawei-apparently-d...

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And again it's the normies that suffer this abuse from these companies and it's not going to stop. Yes we can use custom roms, esoteric ADB hacks etc. to stop this abuse but your average consumer? They can't. Their devices they trust a significant part of their life with gets invaded by these sick marketing people thinking it's somehow conceivable for this to be OK. And there are developers out there that comply with…

And then you run up against the old saying (paraphrased) "You cannot convince someone whose livelihood depends on not being convinced"... the only way to stop this sort of behavior is to change the legalities such that marketers can be sued out of existence for anything considered shady practices. Then push that line every time something new comes up. Unless these asshats are hit on the nose with newspapers when they…

Do not expect these people to understand. Make it impossible for them to act instead. Your average marketing person pushing more and more intrusive ads has the technological prowess of a 3rd grader. They cannot do their malicious business without support from programmers that actually understand the technology they abuse.

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post #78

This is despicable, and it's indicative of a trend I've been noticing over the years. Personal computing used to be about user empowerment. Today it seems to me that many tech companies treat their users as nothing more than either "eyeballs" to show ads to or as cows to be milked through vendor lock-in and subscription services. Either way, I feel the user experience has degraded in recent years, and I feel we incre…

My first laptop was a Toshiba Satellite in 2003 and it was crawling with bloatware, e.g Norton/Mcafee Antivirus popups.

If you want to go bloat-free, buy from the business product lines, not the consumer ones.

Although with the always-online Windows 11, it might be time to dump Windows altogether.

Re: Lenovo tablet forced update shows un-dismissable, un-mutable, ad notifications

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Name them please, because I've looked and there seems to be a slew of compromises in every option that make them worse than a MBP.

Loving my XPS 13 running ubuntu since 2018. Trackpad is great and I still get enough battery life to use for browsing at work all day edit: sorry, I just remembered -- I did have to replace the SSD on this thing when it conked out in 2019! fortunately I bought it refurbished with a warranty of some sort and they shipped a new one fast.

I just got a brand new precision (XPS but with a Quadro card) and it’s unusable. Trackpad straight up broken, maybe due to battery swelling. Had to update firmware to get the headphone jack to function. Camera has strange flickers. Cleary I got a lemon but that’s terrible quality control.

We used XPS 13s as lab computers at a previous job and they would just stop powering on eventually. Sometimes removing and reinserting the battery would bring them back, usually not.

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