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I've never encountered any ads in printed books. Edit because I can't be bothered to reply to all the comments below: excerpts from other books (often by the same author, or in a similar genre) are not ads IMO. They're not intrusive. They're pretty much always relevant. They're fun to read. They don't contain tracking cookies. They're as benign as it gets.

I have a couple of German paperbacks which had one ad in the middle of a book, often for an instant soup or something like that. But at least it was easy to skip :).

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Gentle reminder that Lenovo jumped the shark quite a while ago. The whole Superfish debacle, the spyware, the crapware, the endless stream of shitty decisions. Year after year, the hardware gets worse. Customer support gets worse. The sad thing is that they're still better than everything else out there. Which says a lot about the laptop industry in general.

> The sad thing is that they're still better than everything else out there. They haven't ever been better than Apple laptop hardware, even in Intel-land. There seems to be this common bias in PC laptop evaluation that excludes Apple machines from consideration when doing comparisons. Apple makes the best x64 laptops, and has for years. Sadly, they will stop soon.

So the "best" laptop hardware lacks USB-2 ports forcing me to use a bunch adapters, has a touch bar which is absolutely useless and takes keyboard space, plays poorly with any non-Apple mouse, keyboard keys are too thin, the keyboard is distributed in the most annoying way (fn at corner? And yeah I know about remapping), and it's made to be has hard to repair as possible (on purpose). Yeah hard pass on the "best laptop".

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Lenovo left a sour taste for me after they pushed a BIOS update through Windows Update on my daughter's Flex that bricked the device (in the middle of a school-week, while she was doing online school). There were dozens of reports of the same problem from other owners of that model, yet they refused to acknowledge the issue was theirs or offer any self-serve option (I remember most laptops nowadays can re-flash the B…

This is an invisible advantage that Apple has. Because Macs don't have a long tail of combinations of hardware, BIOS, firmware, etc they can actually recognize bugs and acknowledge them. This gives a better customer experience.

But because the hardware is proprietary, the length of that simpler tail still depends entirely on Apple's willingness to support it's legacy products.

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Man, Lenovo used to produce some amazing machines, like the the Thinkpad 200 series, with great keyboards Now it seems like they are just pushing crap

Models up to it were even better, except in price and LCD contrast

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Gentle reminder that Lenovo jumped the shark quite a while ago. The whole Superfish debacle, the spyware, the crapware, the endless stream of shitty decisions. Year after year, the hardware gets worse. Customer support gets worse. The sad thing is that they're still better than everything else out there. Which says a lot about the laptop industry in general.

> The sad thing is that they're still better than everything else out there. They haven't ever been better than Apple laptop hardware, even in Intel-land. There seems to be this common bias in PC laptop evaluation that excludes Apple machines from consideration when doing comparisons. Apple makes the best x64 laptops, and has for years. Sadly, they will stop soon.

Do they sell anything comparable to 2012 MacBook Pros?

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And again it's the normies that suffer this abuse from these companies and it's not going to stop. Yes we can use custom roms, esoteric ADB hacks etc. to stop this abuse but your average consumer? They can't. Their devices they trust a significant part of their life with gets invaded by these sick marketing people thinking it's somehow conceivable for this to be OK. And there are developers out there that comply with…

And then you run up against the old saying (paraphrased) "You cannot convince someone whose livelihood depends on not being convinced"... the only way to stop this sort of behavior is to change the legalities such that marketers can be sued out of existence for anything considered shady practices. Then push that line every time something new comes up.

Unless these asshats are hit on the nose with newspapers when they shit in your house, they'll never learn to take it elsewhere.

Re: Lenovo tablet forced update shows un-dismissable, un-mutable, ad notifications

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Name them please, because I've looked and there seems to be a slew of compromises in every option that make them worse than a MBP.

Loving my XPS 13 running ubuntu since 2018. Trackpad is great and I still get enough battery life to use for browsing at work all day edit: sorry, I just remembered -- I did have to replace the SSD on this thing when it conked out in 2019! fortunately I bought it refurbished with a warranty of some sort and they shipped a new one fast.

I have an XPS 15 of a similar age, and the battery has swollen to the point that it's pushing the trackpad out of the case.

Re: Lenovo tablet forced update shows un-dismissable, un-mutable, ad notifications

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Gentle reminder that Lenovo jumped the shark quite a while ago. The whole Superfish debacle, the spyware, the crapware, the endless stream of shitty decisions. Year after year, the hardware gets worse. Customer support gets worse. The sad thing is that they're still better than everything else out there. Which says a lot about the laptop industry in general.

> The sad thing is that they're still better than everything else out there. They haven't ever been better than Apple laptop hardware, even in Intel-land. There seems to be this common bias in PC laptop evaluation that excludes Apple machines from consideration when doing comparisons. Apple makes the best x64 laptops, and has for years. Sadly, they will stop soon.

I've only ever owned one Mac, but I had more hardware problems with it than with every other machine I've owned in ~30 years put together. Motherboard melted down (fixed for free despite being out of warranty, to Apple's credit), optical drive crapped out, ACPI crapped out, keyboard backlighting crapped out, screen discoloured, spectacularly awful thermals and fan noise, and of course the daft-by-design Mac keyboard layout.

Obviously that's all anecdotal and may be an outlier, but I don't find a naked assertion that "Apple makes the best x64 laptops" very convincing.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've never encountered any ads in printed books. Edit because I can't be bothered to reply to all the comments below: excerpts from other books (often by the same author, or in a similar genre) are not ads IMO. They're not intrusive. They're pretty much always relevant. They're fun to read. They don't contain tracking cookies. They're as benign as it gets.

Tons of books come with a teaser for another book added to the end of it

Even more commonly, a page of "also by this author:".

Re: Lenovo tablet forced update shows un-dismissable, un-mutable, ad notifications

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Name them please, because I've looked and there seems to be a slew of compromises in every option that make them worse than a MBP.

Loving my XPS 13 running ubuntu since 2018. Trackpad is great and I still get enough battery life to use for browsing at work all day edit: sorry, I just remembered -- I did have to replace the SSD on this thing when it conked out in 2019! fortunately I bought it refurbished with a warranty of some sort and they shipped a new one fast.

Thank you for replying. I don't mean this as a dig at you or your choices but from a cursory glance that model has a significantly worse screen, a weird nose-and-finger webcam on the bottom of the screen, negligible price and spec differences (or probably a much worse value proposition compared to an M1 if you're ok with macOS and ARM), a touchpad which is pretty certain to be worse than Apple's, and a plastic body it looks like.

I think it wins on port options, the aesthetics you could argue as personal preferences, and optioned up it has the potential for maybe a better screen and a digitizer but at that point it loses badly on price. It's not a bad computer, but it's clearly a compromise on several issues and not really beating Apple enough at the stuff it does better that would compel a switch from purely a hardware or value standpoint. I think it's fine if you wanted to avoid Apple or macOS for software reasons, but that's about it. I've also had a pretty good track record with Apple hardware lasting ages while I watch peers with PCs that drop like flies every few years.

This is the point that many of us feel stuck with Apple. Every time I research Apple's alternatives I feel like I've wasted my time.

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