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Digital TV in Belgium now includes unskippable ads, including in recordings of those shows. The reason why people switched to digital TV subscriptions, of course, was to be able to skip those ads in the first place. Apparently Netflix can afford to offer a wide variety of content for a small monthly fee, without any ads, and spend money on content creation; but digital TV stations somehow don't make enough money off…

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I've never encountered any ads in printed books.

Edit because I can't be bothered to reply to all the comments below: excerpts from other books (often by the same author, or in a similar genre) are not ads IMO. They're not intrusive. They're pretty much always relevant. They're fun to read. They don't contain tracking cookies. They're as benign as it gets.

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Man, Lenovo used to produce some amazing machines, like the the Thinkpad 200 series, with great keyboards Now it seems like they are just pushing crap

My theory is that was a leftover from when they were IBM and had huge contracts (think along the lines of 40k laptops at a time). So if something went wrong and you pissed off the wrong guy at one of those companies they would hold you to the 'fixed by the end of the next day' part of the contract. So IBM took care to make sure that did not happen. When they got bought out I was pretty sure that quality would slide eventually to the bean counters.

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Gentle reminder that Lenovo jumped the shark quite a while ago. The whole Superfish debacle, the spyware, the crapware, the endless stream of shitty decisions. Year after year, the hardware gets worse. Customer support gets worse. The sad thing is that they're still better than everything else out there. Which says a lot about the laptop industry in general.

PC laptops are now budget machines so they compete on price. Anything that competes on price tends to become a deflationary race to the bottom.

This is part of why people feel almost stuck with Apple. Their hardware is a lot better than most of the competition, though it comes with a price premium, and while there are privacy concerns they are less than with these shitware-loaded machines. You can also install Linux on them if you really want no telemetry at all, even with M1 Macs.

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Can we please get a law that says that on my devices, I control ads. Fine if bigcorp wants to show me ads, but then they must pay for the device.

That requires root and potentially open source drivers and unlocked bootloaders. Right to repair struggles with the progress it makes, that feels unobtainable.

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I've never encountered any ads in printed books. Edit because I can't be bothered to reply to all the comments below: excerpts from other books (often by the same author, or in a similar genre) are not ads IMO. They're not intrusive. They're pretty much always relevant. They're fun to read. They don't contain tracking cookies. They're as benign as it gets.

I've read a few cheap paperbacks from the 1930s and 40s with a couple of pages of ads at the end; mostly for trousers, hairpieces or departments stores. Strange.

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I've never encountered any ads in printed books. Edit because I can't be bothered to reply to all the comments below: excerpts from other books (often by the same author, or in a similar genre) are not ads IMO. They're not intrusive. They're pretty much always relevant. They're fun to read. They don't contain tracking cookies. They're as benign as it gets.

Ever read a newspaper or magazine?

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Lenovo left a sour taste for me after they pushed a BIOS update through Windows Update on my daughter's Flex that bricked the device (in the middle of a school-week, while she was doing online school). There were dozens of reports of the same problem from other owners of that model, yet they refused to acknowledge the issue was theirs or offer any self-serve option (I remember most laptops nowadays can re-flash the B…

>I remember most laptops nowadays can re-flash the BIOS from an attached USB with specific format and layout

Source for this? I've seen it available on various enthusiast desktop motherboards, but I haven't seen it on laptops. I haven't even seen it on the pricier thinkpad line.

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I'm sure the response would be something like "oh we gave you a discount on it when you purchased it for $399 instead of $1399. It's all in the EULA you agreed to when you first got your device."

That's exactly the logic Amazon uses for their Fire tablets. You can get them cheaper if you agree to have ads baked into the lock screen at a firmware level.

Yes, but it's up front and obvious, not hidden in legalese or added in a future update.

That seems fine to me.

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The Framework laptop is a cool concept and I can see myself getting one eventually, but the link is about a Lenovo (Android?) tablet. Not even remotely the same market or even thing.

Except it poisons the Lenovo brand. I keep a running "what's my next laptop going to be?" thread running in my head. Lenovo was on that list because it's the "default implementation" of Linux laptops. But now - not so sure. If they're happy to pull this kind of asshattery, what other idiocy are they happy to do? And Framework just made it onto that list this week, so the other post was timely too :)

I bought a second-hand HP 15s lately. Ryzen 5500U, supports NVMe SSD, and allows up to 32GB DDR4 RAM. I haven't used it extensively but the fans are impressively quiet (likely because the AMD hardware heats up less than Intel/NVIDIA tech) and I found myself liking the machine more than I expected to.

If you need RAM up to 64GB there are the 855 G7 models.

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