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Re: Lenovo tablet forced update shows un-dismissable, un-mutable, ad notifications

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Post by kitsunesoba »

HelixEndeavor wrote: post #21

This is awful behavior, and I'm not trying to diminish that in any way, but... Who sticks with the OEM software? One of the first things I do with any x86-based system is wipe the drive and install a fresh copy of Windows or a distro of choice.

On some laptops I'll stick with the stock windows install simply because that's what is often required to get full performance (GPU, battery life, etc). The most egregious I've seen so far is an ASUS Zephyrus G15 which gets ~20% worse GPU performance when using anything but the factory Nvidia drivers on the factory install. Installing drivers from Windows Update or straight from Nvidia incurs the speed hit, and while it's possible to download the right drivers from ASUS, getting them installed and in the right state is a pain in the rear.

Re: Lenovo tablet forced update shows un-dismissable, un-mutable, ad notifications

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Post by marcus_holmes »

bityard wrote: post #16
blacktriangle wrote: post #13

Appropriate to see this and the new Framework announcement on the front page at the same time. Here's hoping Framework is positioned to take advantage of what seems like the whole industry lighting themselves on fire wrt respeting their users.

The Framework laptop is a cool concept and I can see myself getting one eventually, but the link is about a Lenovo (Android?) tablet. Not even remotely the same market or even thing.

Except it poisons the Lenovo brand.

I keep a running "what's my next laptop going to be?" thread running in my head. Lenovo was on that list because it's the "default implementation" of Linux laptops. But now - not so sure. If they're happy to pull this kind of asshattery, what other idiocy are they happy to do?

And Framework just made it onto that list this week, so the other post was timely too :)

Re: Lenovo tablet forced update shows un-dismissable, un-mutable, ad notifications

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Post by JJMcJ »

ithinkso wrote: post #12

I wonder if the ad bombardment we are suffering for some years now will eventually reach a critical point to trigger mass exodus or protests. TV got annoying with ads and viewership greatly decreased but that was caused by the emergence of the internet I think, what new technology options we have to escape the current ads to? The only other hope is that the massive amount of money in ads and data collection is actual…

> trigger mass exodus

Or YouTube. Without blockers or YouTube Premium, it's getting to be like watching old shows in syndication on one of these TV stations you can never remember the channel number for. Five minutes of The Dick Van Dyke Show, five minutes of ads for things not available in stores, back to the show etc etc.

Re: Lenovo tablet forced update shows un-dismissable, un-mutable, ad notifications

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Post by bellyfullofbac »

shawnz wrote: post #6
morpheuskafka wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ThinkPads are still the name of the game for enterprise laptop deployments. AFAIK, they don't contain any preloaded stuff beyond the OEM app (Lenovo Vantage). Some enterprises prefer the more stripped down Lenovo System Update instead, although I think users may need Vantage to change some hotkey, etc. settings. Still, for a business with stricter security standards, it would be ideal to do a clean reimage of all new…

At my workplace we use all Dell, including the laptops, and I've been mostly happy with them.

Did you get extra warranty? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go5tLO6ipxw

TL;DW: they did a secret shopper laptop buying experience, the sales rep pushed the extra warranty hard, and included it (at cost) despite the buyer declining it.

Re: Lenovo tablet forced update shows un-dismissable, un-mutable, ad notifications

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Post by jamincan »

ithinkso wrote: post #12

I wonder if the ad bombardment we are suffering for some years now will eventually reach a critical point to trigger mass exodus or protests. TV got annoying with ads and viewership greatly decreased but that was caused by the emergence of the internet I think, what new technology options we have to escape the current ads to? The only other hope is that the massive amount of money in ads and data collection is actual…

His channel is an increasingly rare gem. It's very high quality and interesting content without all the extra cruft that is inescapable now, even with some of the better channels.

Re: Lenovo tablet forced update shows un-dismissable, un-mutable, ad notifications

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Post by edoceo »

mschuster91 wrote: post #27
sergiotapia wrote: post #9

Same with my samsung tablet forcing itself to update. "You can dismiss this 1 more time" - why? It's my device I paid for it. It's very tiresome. What device can I buy that's just mine to do as I please. On desktop I'm already on Linux Mint. Looking for alts for phone and tablet.

I somewhat understand Samsung a bit. The amount of never updated Android devices that could be updated is immense, and support calls for long-banished issues that could be solved by a simple update are pointless and a waste of resources. The problem is that users suffer from "update fatigue" because they have to be (rightfully) afraid of entire UI overhauls or even more bugs after updates since no one does QA any mor…

Should call it avocado-ware. Almost ready when you buy it, perfect the next day(update1) but then mushy-shit the next (update2).

Also, store them in the fridge

Re: Lenovo tablet forced update shows un-dismissable, un-mutable, ad notifications

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Post by bkraz »

jamincan wrote: post #37
ithinkso wrote: post #12

I wonder if the ad bombardment we are suffering for some years now will eventually reach a critical point to trigger mass exodus or protests. TV got annoying with ads and viewership greatly decreased but that was caused by the emergence of the internet I think, what new technology options we have to escape the current ads to? The only other hope is that the massive amount of money in ads and data collection is actual…

His channel is an increasingly rare gem. It's very high quality and interesting content without all the extra cruft that is inescapable now, even with some of the better channels.

Thank you. I make a conscious effort to avoid the craft that I hate so much myself. Luckily, I have a day job that allows me to treat the channel as a hobby -- I know others are not in this position. Other downside is that the day job takes time away from making fun videos :) let me know if anyone has a topic suggestion.

Re: Lenovo tablet forced update shows un-dismissable, un-mutable, ad notifications

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Post by mdoms »

HelixEndeavor wrote: post #21

This is awful behavior, and I'm not trying to diminish that in any way, but... Who sticks with the OEM software? One of the first things I do with any x86-based system is wipe the drive and install a fresh copy of Windows or a distro of choice.

Well firstly the vast, overwhelming majority of users do. Secondly this is an android tablet so your post is entirely off track.
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