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Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

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Post by mixmastamyk »

filereaper wrote: post #37

I see the founder @nrp replying to a few comments here. @nrp, can you comment on upcoming models? Would love to have a 15" or 17" model with the same swappable ports but with a beefier processor and much larger memory capacities. The larger frames might allow for more ports, but I'm not sure if you're limited by the number of PCIe lanes on these processors. I think a Ryzen offering would also be welcomed. Lastly than…

Definitely need one with a larger screen.

Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

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Post by marcus_holmes »

bastardoperator wrote: post #48
lostapathy wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I desperately want this to succeed as well. Enough that I've got a preorder that's supposed to ship this week. I'm willing to take the gamble. Sometimes you have to help fund the change you want to see in the world.

I can't see this succeeding when the laptop I have to assemble myself costs more than a prebuilt laptop with much better specs. I love the idea too, but the price seems a little outrageous.

I have a Purism laptop, over 2 years old now so out of warranty. The USB system had a problem last month. Purism shipped me a new motherboard at cost within a few days. I happily swapped out the old motherboard (a bit fiddly in places, but perfectly straightforward). Laptop is fine, I'm typing this on it now.

I've had problems with Dells before - if it's out of warranty then tough, nothing we can do. I had a screen fail on my 2014 Macbook - luckily in warranty so I got a new screen, but it took a week for them to do it.

And, of course, I can upgrade the memory and/or drive any time I like - they're easily accessible and stock parts that I can buy from anywhere.

I think the trade-off on price for this repairability is well worth it. If I'd bought a Dell instead of a Purism I'd be SOL and looking at the cost of a whole new laptop now.

Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

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Post by dheera »

bityard wrote: post #49
dheera wrote: post #35

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Oh sure but they could charge Newegg's price and just order from Newegg? I just feel like if I'm going to order any sort of "bundle" of items I should be getting a discount. Fundamental axiom of sales: price([A, B])

If you owned a business, which parts of it would you do for free?

I don't care, but if you were a customer, and price([A,B]) was greater than price([A])+price([B]) elsewhere, who would you buy from?

I mean, I'll happily sell you $100 Amazon products for $150 if you'd like. I can even charge for shipping, and not pass on the 5% cashback I get.

Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

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Post by kiba »

marcus_holmes wrote: post #53
bastardoperator wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't see this succeeding when the laptop I have to assemble myself costs more than a prebuilt laptop with much better specs. I love the idea too, but the price seems a little outrageous.

I have a Purism laptop, over 2 years old now so out of warranty. The USB system had a problem last month. Purism shipped me a new motherboard at cost within a few days. I happily swapped out the old motherboard (a bit fiddly in places, but perfectly straightforward). Laptop is fine, I'm typing this on it now. I've had problems with Dells before - if it's out of warranty then tough, nothing we can do. I had a screen f…

But replacing a whole motherboard just to fix a few usb ports?

Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

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Post by abnercoimbre »

marcus_holmes wrote: post #53
bastardoperator wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't see this succeeding when the laptop I have to assemble myself costs more than a prebuilt laptop with much better specs. I love the idea too, but the price seems a little outrageous.

I have a Purism laptop, over 2 years old now so out of warranty. The USB system had a problem last month. Purism shipped me a new motherboard at cost within a few days. I happily swapped out the old motherboard (a bit fiddly in places, but perfectly straightforward). Laptop is fine, I'm typing this on it now. I've had problems with Dells before - if it's out of warranty then tough, nothing we can do. I had a screen f…

Yes. And also wouldn't pricing get better over time? I think the GP is funding it knowing full well it's expensive for now - that's the point of taking the risk.

Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

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Post by OJFord »

stormbrew wrote: post #32
vaidhy wrote: post #12

I just ordered a DIY kit from them yesterday. One of the really big factor for me would be a decent battery life. Can I suggest the framework team to also post a base power config for Linux?

I'm kind of surprised battery cells aren't one of the kinds of usbc case modules you can get out of the gate. Obviously they'd be a bit limited in mAh but tbh a lot of the time I'd probably be willing to sacrifice 2 or even 3 of the 4 modules for battery if I'm actually on the go. (I kind of suspect you might be limited to one though, assuming the power delivery controller can only really handle one external source o…

Would it be enough to be worthwhile at all though, even ignoring the cost of the control circuitry? (and what's the laptop going to do when it sees 5 power sources? How does it know not to charge one depleted battery module from another?)
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