Sounds like the issue of correlation and causation isn't solidified here. Maybe the very fact of Tyler Cowen recognizes them is what makes them so successful. He invests, puts their names out there and a lot of the elements needed for success fall at their feet. Or maybe Cowen made a deal with the devil and can predict the future. Hard to tell without a control group where Cowen doesn't exist.
I agree there is likely impact from the recognition itself. Shouldn't be hard to verify, no? Have him pick 2N candidates, randomly select half that he can not announce publicly, talk to or otherwise influence (impossible to prevent entirely but "good enough" will suffice to establish a difference). Then look at how the two groups are doing some time down the line.
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#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree there is likely impact from the recognition itself. Shouldn't be hard to verify, no? Have him pick 2N candidates, randomly select half that he can not announce publicly, talk to or otherwise influence (impossible to prevent entirely but "good enough" will suffice to establish a difference). Then look at how the two groups are doing some time down the line.
Not hard to verify in some weird vacuum where completely pointless albeit simple sounding things are done to validate random conjectures, yes.
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#13Everyone should listen to some episodes of Conversations with Tyler. I normally hate interview podcasts, but it is bar none the best one out there. It doesn't matter the topic - the questions he is able to hit his subjects with are amazing, nothing at all like how most interviews go.
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#14“You learn about other cultures, you learn different points of view by refining your eye and you develop a skill that is extremely useful for judging other things and cracking cultural codes in other settings. It’s an education in market economics - art markets. Like how do you buy the best pictures in an area Haitian art, or how do you assemble a very good voodoo flag collection? How do you get artists in Mexico to do their best work for you? That’s a business problem that you need to solve.
You want experience at solving a broad diversity of problems, to heighten your aesthetic sense, to learn some real history, and to understand how some of the art world works, surround yourself with beauty.
And you should buy it for the love of the art, and try to find that which other people have not really found or appreciated yet. It’s just like the world of ideas right? It is the world of ideas. It just costs more to play in it in terms of upfront dollar commitments.” [Tyler Cowen: Production Function. David Perrell, North Star Podcast.]
Relying on markets and the opinions of others may be effective in determining current economic value, but it is not a fruitful approach for finding "talent", broadly defined. Contemporary art is an excellent place to observe this phenomenon; there is very little connection between "aesthetic value" and "market value." The art market is a fascinating thing, but make no mistake, the most popular artists are not the most "talented", by whatever definition of talent you may have.
"Slow is the experience of all deep fountains: long have they to wait until they know what hath fallen into their depths. Away from the marketplace and from fame taketh place all that is great: away from the marketplace and from fame have ever dwelt the devisers of new values."
- Nietzsche, Thus Spoke Zarathustra
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#16Sounds like the issue of correlation and causation isn't solidified here. Maybe the very fact of Tyler Cowen recognizes them is what makes them so successful. He invests, puts their names out there and a lot of the elements needed for success fall at their feet. Or maybe Cowen made a deal with the devil and can predict the future. Hard to tell without a control group where Cowen doesn't exist.
It's easier to take him at his own word - the program is so effective because the audience is self selected:
> “I try to stay a bit weird and obscure enough that mostly quite smart people are writing me. If I had too many not smart emails I would feel that I was doing something else wrong with what I’m writing.” … “The rate of good applications is reasonably high. Maybe I’m lowering it just by talking about the program.”
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#17- Intense curiosity
- Deep knowledge of economics
- Strong interpersonal skills
- Risk taking bias - e.g. focus on MR was a significant risk for him
No surprise that he's exceptionally good at identifying and backing talent in this way.
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#18I'm a grantee of Tyler's Emergent Ventures program (I was in batch 2) and I have to say that I was impressed by the people I met during the Emergent Ventures unconference (there was one two years ago and there will be another one this November). I really felt out of place, since everyone else seemed so much more accomplished and smart.
Ask yourself, do you think the person who invited you / hired you is stupid? Probably not, given the people around you smart and capable.
In this specific case, of course, finding people who are not yet accomplished is entirely the point.
Congrats on your selection.
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#19Cowen is truly unique. He's one of the only "public intellectuals" who has replied to my random emails on multiple occasions. Everyone should listen to some episodes of Conversations with Tyler. I normally hate interview podcasts, but it is bar none the best one out there. It doesn't matter the topic - the questions he is able to hit his subjects with are amazing, nothing at all like how most interviews go.
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#20It's also worth noting that Tyler is an uncommonly good interviewer, largely because he asks very good, and unique, questions (see https://conversationswithtyler.com/ ). I suspect these two skills are related.