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Israel’s Covid-19 boosters are preventing infections, new studies suggest

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Re: Israel’s Covid-19 boosters are preventing infections, new studies suggest

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Post by smorgusofborg »

endisneigh wrote: post #3

Assuming it's only as effective as the original two-dose shot and prevents for the same duration, it seems like COVID will never go away. Assuming the current trend and a 9 month prevention, that pretty much aligns to what happened last year. So we'd need no new significant variants to develop or any outbreaks. Seems unlikely given that there are many countries with vaccination rates under 50% Probably better to focu…

A few vaccines are 3 doses at 0,1,6-12 months and offer a decade of protection if you don't miss the last dose..

Re: Israel’s Covid-19 boosters are preventing infections, new studies suggest

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Post by prox »

cm2187 wrote: post #5
endisneigh wrote: post #3

Assuming it's only as effective as the original two-dose shot and prevents for the same duration, it seems like COVID will never go away. Assuming the current trend and a 9 month prevention, that pretty much aligns to what happened last year. So we'd need no new significant variants to develop or any outbreaks. Seems unlikely given that there are many countries with vaccination rates under 50% Probably better to focu…

[edit] this is in response to the earlier version of your post where you wonder if the virus will ever go away: That I think is a given. Even if we had a bullet proof vaccine, you have such a large reserve of unvaccinated people across the world, plus animals, that the virus is endemic at this stage. Which isn't a problem. If once vaccinated the virus is mostly harmless, then it is just one more of the many endemic d…

We might also see the first batch of medicines appear in 2022, if we can successfully prevent ICU visits with effective medicines for starters, that would mean a lot to healthcare professionals worldwide.

Re: Israel’s Covid-19 boosters are preventing infections, new studies suggest

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Post by pwned1 »

vkou wrote: post #10

> Probably better to focus on the minimum number of vaccinations necessary to make hospitalization/death unlikely and move on from there. It would be nice if we could meet even that bar, but the US is currently at 53% of the population vaccinated, and much of its medical system is collapsing. Which is fine for that 53%, until they have a heart attack, get in a car accident, cancer, are immuno-compromised, etc, etc. G…

"Collapsing" is a serious overstatement.

Re: Israel’s Covid-19 boosters are preventing infections, new studies suggest

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Post by endisneigh »

smorgusofborg wrote: post #11
endisneigh wrote: post #3

Assuming it's only as effective as the original two-dose shot and prevents for the same duration, it seems like COVID will never go away. Assuming the current trend and a 9 month prevention, that pretty much aligns to what happened last year. So we'd need no new significant variants to develop or any outbreaks. Seems unlikely given that there are many countries with vaccination rates under 50% Probably better to focu…

A few vaccines are 3 doses at 0,1,6-12 months and offer a decade of protection if you don't miss the last dose..

wow, wasn't aware of this development. which COVID vaccine is this? is it one of the nasal ones?

Re: Israel’s Covid-19 boosters are preventing infections, new studies suggest

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Post by endisneigh »

dv_dt wrote: post #7
endisneigh wrote: post #3

Assuming it's only as effective as the original two-dose shot and prevents for the same duration, it seems like COVID will never go away. Assuming the current trend and a 9 month prevention, that pretty much aligns to what happened last year. So we'd need no new significant variants to develop or any outbreaks. Seems unlikely given that there are many countries with vaccination rates under 50% Probably better to focu…

Is there any reason not to increase vaccine production rates so we have the capacity to vaccinate the world population faster than every 9 months?

nope - as you allude to, ideally we could spit out these vaccines and just give people 6-month boosters until everyone is vaccinated and we're good.

I believe the issue is that too many people fail to get vaccinated so it's challenging. Requiring boosters might also convert small numbers of people who got a vaccine one to not get it subsequent times.

Re: Israel’s Covid-19 boosters are preventing infections, new studies suggest

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Post by SideburnsOfDoom »

serial_dev wrote: post #6

It's like Linux on the desktop and fusion reactors. It seems like we are always one jab away from being safe and overcoming covid.

It seems like longer, but COVID has only been a thing for around 21 months.

To be this far in vaccination at this point is huge progress. Achieving desktop Linux and nuclear fusion have been ongoing projects for far longer.

Re: Israel’s Covid-19 boosters are preventing infections, new studies suggest

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Post by pradn »

endisneigh wrote: post #14
smorgusofborg wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A few vaccines are 3 doses at 0,1,6-12 months and offer a decade of protection if you don't miss the last dose..

wow, wasn't aware of this development. which COVID vaccine is this? is it one of the nasal ones?

I think they're saying that other vaccines, not COVID vaccines, have this property. We can't assess decadal resistance yet for COVID vaccines.

Re: Israel’s Covid-19 boosters are preventing infections, new studies suggest

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Post by bsksi »

pwned1 wrote: post #9
serial_dev wrote: post #6

It's like Linux on the desktop and fusion reactors. It seems like we are always one jab away from being safe and overcoming covid.

At this point we need to acknowledge that there will be no "overcoming" it and it will be endemic, like the flu.

Oh, we have acknowledged it. The question is, have our politicians acknowledged it, or will they keep taking our rights?

Re: Israel’s Covid-19 boosters are preventing infections, new studies suggest

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Post by grlass »

endisneigh wrote: post #14
smorgusofborg wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A few vaccines are 3 doses at 0,1,6-12 months and offer a decade of protection if you don't miss the last dose..

wow, wasn't aware of this development. which COVID vaccine is this? is it one of the nasal ones?

this wouldn't be covid-19 vaccine, rather a vaccine for another disease. We absolutely do not have any data on the efficacy of any covid-19 vaccine after a decade (or more than 18 months or so) yet.
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