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Chocolat - the new editor

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Re: Chocolat - the new editor

#131
post #25

I know I'm a graybeard, but I have yet to see a serious editor on any platform that could get me to switch away from Emacs. The perils of 20+ years of muscle memory and accumulated knowledge, I suppose.

"The perils of 20+ years of muscle memory and accumulated knowledge, I suppose."

This cuts both ways. For people whose muscle memory is attuned to the standard Mac or Windows shortcuts and UI conventions, Chocolat (or Textmate, or some Windows text editor) might be more appealing.

Re: Chocolat - the new editor

#132
post #32

"Who doesn't like tabs?" In text editors? Me. I don't like thinking about which individual files are open. Any file under the root of my project (i.e. the editor's current working directory) is fair game for an open buffer. I treat open file as "go to class".

Emacs user.

A proud Textmate user.

Re: Chocolat - the new editor

#133

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I don't choose vim or emacs for the same reason I don't choose Linux. The appeal of OS X is that it's a pleasant place to spend time, full of well crafted GUIs specifically for it, while retaining a good amount of Unix power.

Yes. We don't fool ourselves into thinking we can convert hardcore Vim or Emacs users. If you love Vim or love Emacs, then you should just use Vim or Emacs! Personally, I desire a better UI. The number of good, actively developed text editors on the Mac is actually remarkably small. There's TextMate 2, which has become a synonym for vapourware. Kod's future seems uncertain now that Rasmus got his job. Coda and Espres…

well, I tried text wrangler which was supposed to be bbedit but free, and I definitely did not like the UI (even though I do like lots of the mac UI)

this thing looks exactly like emacs to me but with tabs and a comparatively pathetic engine under the hood

Re: Chocolat - the new editor

#134

Anyone who thinks this is cool should check out Sublime Text 2. It has all these features and much more (json config files? oh yes). Also, it's cross-platform; learn once, use everywhere.

Personally, I'd prefer a Preferences GUI, rather than JSON files. If you're going to release on a platform, follow that platform's conventions.

I suspect laziness on the part of the developer in regards to a Preferences GUI, rather than any attempt at a new paradigm.

Re: Chocolat - the new editor

#135

Anyone who thinks this is cool should check out Sublime Text 2. It has all these features and much more (json config files? oh yes). Also, it's cross-platform; learn once, use everywhere.

Personally, I'd prefer a Preferences GUI, rather than JSON files. If you're going to release on a platform, follow that platform's conventions. I suspect laziness on the part of the developer in regards to a Preferences GUI, rather than any attempt at a new paradigm.

Actually I really like the fact that they're JSON files. It makes it very easy to copy/paste preferences between different machines.

Re: Chocolat - the new editor

#136

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TextMate 2 will be a free upgrade

i fear that might not be the case if/when it ever comes out. i have a sinking feeling textmate 2 will end up as a mac store only app, and there's no way to provide free licenses to previous owners of non-mac store licenses.

If he is interested in putting it on the App Store, I doubt such an established developer would sweat maintaining a parallel standard version. Although the free upgrade promise is/was rash, I think it's too late to go back on it.

Re: Chocolat - the new editor

#137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i fear that might not be the case if/when it ever comes out. i have a sinking feeling textmate 2 will end up as a mac store only app, and there's no way to provide free licenses to previous owners of non-mac store licenses.

If he is interested in putting it on the App Store, I doubt such an established developer would sweat maintaining a parallel standard version. Although the free upgrade promise is/was rash, I think it's too late to go back on it.

Probably— although I just googled 'textmate 2 free upgrade' and the top hit is a blog post from 2006 titled "[TextMate] 2.0 Will Require Leopard".

It's possible he might just be able to walk that one back a little.

Re: Chocolat - the new editor

#138
post #33
post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Emacs user.

Buffers are truly amazing - combined with powerful buffer naming patterns, it's a breeze switching between buffers blindly (included with autocomplete) and if you forget about which buffers are open it's a keystroke away to see an overview of the buffers open... 20-25 buffers open at once? Easy!

When you have 100 or more buffers open, you may have two files with the same name. Using uniquify (require 'uniquify) helps differentiate them. Instead of getting file and file you get file:"directory_1" and file:"directory_2".

Re: Chocolat - the new editor

#139
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Buffers are truly amazing - combined with powerful buffer naming patterns, it's a breeze switching between buffers blindly (included with autocomplete) and if you forget about which buffers are open it's a keystroke away to see an overview of the buffers open... 20-25 buffers open at once? Easy!

When you have 100 or more buffers open, you may have two files with the same name. Using uniquify (require 'uniquify) helps differentiate them. Instead of getting file and file you get file:"directory_1" and file:"directory_2".

That's exactly what I use, Uniquify and Ido.

Re: Chocolat - the new editor

#140

What differentiates this from Textmate? It so far looks like a clone, which I'm sure is just superficial.

It's actively being developed, for one.

Textmate works great for any. What features are Textmate users waiting for? Is this with Chocolat is going to deliver?
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