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System76 Pangolin Linux-first laptop with AMD internals now in stock

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Southpaw here! I'd never buy a laptop without a number pad. The track pad being off-center is also good. Gaming? 78462 make for the best movement, and the number pad also has seven non-numerical buttons to bind things to. It also puts your index finger right next to lENTER, which is so useful for games that make use of it. Programming? Bind the buttons to commonly-used UNIX programs to make for a better IDE than an I…

Just put the damn thing in the middle.

I'd actually be into that. I come from the split keyboards world. Put your god damned numpad in the middle and give me ortholinear keys on each side. I will throw money at you today.

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I wish a person could order one of these without the numeric keypad. I deeply hate being off-center to the screen when typing on these larger portables.

You interact with a computer only through the screen, speakers, microphone, and keyboard. So of course, the advertisement for every laptop emphasises internal component metrics that don't actually matter that much. "Now with X8-7820Z SUPER!" or whatever. Instead they have terrible screens, tinny speakers, noisy microphones, and non-customisable keyboard layouts. The latter of which are always cramped, and I mean alwa…

I believe the Framework Laptop offers that, though it's very new and the non US keyboard options are available yet. They're aiming for a pretty decent list by end of year including UK, French, Chinese, Korean, German and blank (both ANSI and ISO).

https://frame.work

(I'm in no way affiliated, just eyeing them up for my next laptop purchase)

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I wish a person could order one of these without the numeric keypad. I deeply hate being off-center to the screen when typing on these larger portables.

Totally Agree.

This is really unfortunate unless they are going hard for the "Accountant" demographic.

* FWIW: Typing this on a System 76 machine with a [1] TKL mechanical keyboard.

[1] TKL / Tenkeyless - https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/tenke...

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Yes the numpad comes in useful when I’m calculating all day

I have a nice ten-keyless mech keyboard that I love to use for programming. However I really do miss having a number pad more than I thought I would.

If it's programmable you could set up a layer with a number pad on it. I've done that with mine and basically never use the actual number keys now.

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So what's your opinion of a 4k UHD display? It's 16:9 but twice as many vertical pixels as this laptop.

It doesn’t really matter, if the diagonal is roughly the same and you use 200% scaling. The corresponding 16:10 or 3:2 would still be preferable (or even 4:3, which was once the standard aspect ratio for laptops). For a given notebook width, you basically want as much height as possible. For desktop monitors, it can be more of a personal preference regarding FOV and window layout. For me personally, I think a ~30" 16…

I math'd this out recently and decided that ~16:9 actually would be the ideal ratio for me.. On a ~42" 8k monitor, using 2x scaling.

I'm optimizing mainly for viewing three documents side by side here. Having your primary document (e.g. text editor or IDE) centered means you're not constantly turning your head one way or another. And it has the added benefit of working well for media (compared to 3 monitors in vertical orientation). At 8k and that screen size.. the aspect ratio doesn't matter as long as there's enough vertical pixels and inches.

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Obviously the "Linux-first" is a big value-add for this brand, but the hardware for the price isn't amazing. $1200 gets you a Zen 2 (previous generation) 6-core, 12-thread CPU[0], 8GB RAM, 240 GB NVME, 15" 1080p (did not see brightness/color accuracy mentioned.) But I like my laptops to come with fast refresh and a dedicated GPU, and I run Windows, so I'm not their target audience. Would love to hear how this is rece…

It's all Clevo based anyway. System76 doesn't go much beyond what they source. It's a shame, if they actually made the effort to design a laptop that went beyond its foundation, I'd be more interested. But instead it's Clevo guts, Clevo problems. Looking at the AMD laptop linked... Lots of empty space that could have been slightly optimized for a larger battery. It just seems basically thought out... not like conside…

It's not Clevo, it's Qinghua

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I love the idea of System76. But the low budget keyboards on their rebranded hardware don’t do it for me.

I heard they planned to manufacture their own machines recently, but I’d rather buy a ThinkPad for the awesome keyboard than gamble on whatever keyboard they’re using now.

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It doesn’t really matter, if the diagonal is roughly the same and you use 200% scaling. The corresponding 16:10 or 3:2 would still be preferable (or even 4:3, which was once the standard aspect ratio for laptops). For a given notebook width, you basically want as much height as possible. For desktop monitors, it can be more of a personal preference regarding FOV and window layout. For me personally, I think a ~30" 16…

I math'd this out recently and decided that ~16:9 actually would be the ideal ratio for me.. On a ~42" 8k monitor, using 2x scaling. I'm optimizing mainly for viewing three documents side by side here. Having your primary document (e.g. text editor or IDE) centered means you're not constantly turning your head one way or another. And it has the added benefit of working well for media (compared to 3 monitors in vertic…

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