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System76 Pangolin Linux-first laptop with AMD internals now in stock

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1080p screen is a no-go. come on yall, it's 2021

Hard disagree. On a 15.6" 1080p really is sufficient. The upsides of not wasting battery and just performance of not having to push more pixels makes it worth it. Even gaming channels like LTT talk about this a bit. That being said - if you're coming from the macbooks retina it's definitely a downgrade. My guess however is that this device won't have a screen that is that good either way though.

Sweet spot @15" for me is 1200p if I can get it 1440p otherwise. I haven't used a computer with less than 1200 vertical lines since 2004 and I don't plan on changing it.

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I wish a person could order one of these without the numeric keypad. I deeply hate being off-center to the screen when typing on these larger portables.

i deeply hate being without a numpad. I understand it's duplicated space, but typing numbers on a numpad is just a million times faster than going above the alphabet keys.

You can get a cheap external numpad.

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I wish a person could order one of these without the numeric keypad. I deeply hate being off-center to the screen when typing on these larger portables.

My wish for a laptop is one with the trackpad above the keyboard instead of below and the keyboard at the bottom edge of the case. I really don't like wrist-wrests on keyboards, but with a laptop, I have no choice.

The only laptops I know with the keyboard at the front of the base are a couple of Asus models, the Zephyrus and the Zenbook. Both have the touchpad to the right of the keyboard and a second screen above.

Definitely an acquired taste and not the most portable of devices.

Re: System76 Pangolin Linux-first laptop with AMD internals now in stock

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Re: System76 Pangolin Linux-first laptop with AMD internals now in stock

#135
post #12

1080p screen is a no-go. come on yall, it's 2021

Hard disagree. On a 15.6" 1080p really is sufficient. The upsides of not wasting battery and just performance of not having to push more pixels makes it worth it. Even gaming channels like LTT talk about this a bit. That being said - if you're coming from the macbooks retina it's definitely a downgrade. My guess however is that this device won't have a screen that is that good either way though.

> Hard disagree. On a 15.6" 1080p really is sufficient.

Considering what I've recently learned about the fractional scaling mess, I would only buy laptops with a 1440p or 4K display because they don't need fractional scaling.

I really wish there were more 24 inch 4K or 27 inch 5K monitors on the market and not the 27 inch 4K mess we're getting. I'm not sure what monitor manufacturers are thinking.

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I have no idea who thought this was a good idea. The trackpad is even off to the left to accommodate it. I'm not a fan of symmetry for symmetry's sake, but I do think some affordances for the human body might be a good idea. How do southpaws enjoy this keyboard setup? The ergonomics of laptops are bad enough without stuff like this.

>The trackpad is even off to the left to accommodate it. Yes, that is the first thing I notice. Any laptop with an off-center trackpad goes in the do-not-buy list.

Same here. Saw the lead image with and immediately thought: no buy. No fancy specs in the world can make me accept bad ergonomics.

Re: System76 Pangolin Linux-first laptop with AMD internals now in stock

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I wish a person could order one of these without the numeric keypad. I deeply hate being off-center to the screen when typing on these larger portables.

The trick is to put a sidebar window on the right ao the keyboard feels centered.

How often do you type into a full screen window?

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I would have thought the same several years ago. At age 40+, 1080p on a laptop is still good. Even at 1080p, I have to go into accessibility settings to enlarge text. I'm pretty much out of the market for 4k screens on laptops these days. Also had to switch to a big phone and crank up the text size.

50+ with bad eyes, and I think the difference between 4K and 1080p is still very noticeable on a 15.6" laptop, in terms of sharpness. Having said that, most people probably set the text magnification on a 4K screen to be the same as a 1080p screen, so any real estate gains tend to be a wash. Since getting presbyopia several years ago, I had single vision glasses prescribed for using a computer. So when I am using a c…

> Having said that, most people probably set the text magnification on a 4K screen to be the same as a 1080p screen, so any real estate gains tend to be a wash.

If someone's buying a laptop with a 4K display for real estate, he's probably misinformed. You buy a 4K display on a laptop for the pristine ~293 PPI vs a mediocre ~146 PPI on a 1080p display which would look even worse considering it would need fractional scaling while the 4K display would work with integer scaling.

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Very distinguishable after daily use of a MacBook Pro.

Yeah ok but this is a computer for hackers, not people who decide what shade grey to make text on a website.

High DPI is great for text. It’s easier to read and way more crisp. High DPI is about edges and lines and details (like text), not colors!
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