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System76 Pangolin Linux-first laptop with AMD internals now in stock

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Post by downWidOutaFite »

SheinhardtWigCo wrote: post #26
abledon wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't 1080p way better for battery life + its mostly indistinguishable in pixels? unless you are like, looking really close at the pixels? remember its 1080p inside a 15" monitor, not a 24" monitor a PC has.

Very distinguishable after daily use of a MacBook Pro.

My 16" Macbook Pro's display is certainly beautiful but the battery life is pathetic. If lower resolution really did save battery then I think I would make the tradeoff, especially since everybody runs the resolution scaled down from 3072x1920 so the only thing you gain from it is the subpixel sharpness.

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Post by ohazi »

protomyth wrote: post #2

I wish a person could order one of these without the numeric keypad. I deeply hate being off-center to the screen when typing on these larger portables.

I switched from Lenovo's 15" T-series to their 14" models because of the goddamn numpad.

I guess now I could look at the X1 extreme, because that has a 15"/16" display and no numpad.

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Post by p1necone »

protomyth wrote: post #2

I wish a person could order one of these without the numeric keypad. I deeply hate being off-center to the screen when typing on these larger portables.

I can't bear the thought of being forced to play roguelikes suboptimally.

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Post by akvadrako »

ngngngng wrote: post #119
akvadrako wrote: post #91

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Maybe older generations weren't powerful enough, but I use the 7th gen (2019) to run a 2nd 4K external display and it works fine. 4K is a little overkill for 14", but I wouldn't consider a laptop below 3K. Definitionally not dumb.

What OS are you using? I installed PopOS onto mine and maybe something there is the issue. We have the same model and mine is maxed on specs but whenever I'm in 4k and using an external monitor it becomes unbearably slow.

I run Ubuntu. Works fine in windows too.

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Post by masterof0 »

john_yaya wrote: post #99
Rd6n6 wrote: post #39

What are system76 keyboards and trackpads like? I wish I could touch one before having to decide whether to buy

I have a System76 Gazelle. The trackpad tends to freak out when I reboot, issuing random clicks and cursor jitters - so I usually have to reboot again, or deactivate the trackpad in Ubuntu. Multiple firmware and OS updates haven’t fixed this.

+1 on this, I got mine 2 years back, together with the fan noises, this was the "features" that annoyed me most. Also the Gazelle feels cheap, the keyboard is not terrible, but is not great either. I wish they they have a better quality case, a better keyboard, and a brighter screen panel. I have not tried the other models, I hope to get my hands on the Darter Pro, it seems promising. I think what System76 is doing is pretty cool, I just wish their products were more competitive.

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Post by aidenn0 »

protomyth wrote: post #2

I wish a person could order one of these without the numeric keypad. I deeply hate being off-center to the screen when typing on these larger portables.

My wish for a laptop is one with the trackpad above the keyboard instead of below and the keyboard at the bottom edge of the case. I really don't like wrist-wrests on keyboards, but with a laptop, I have no choice.

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Post by numpad0 »

jm4 wrote: post #31
ruined wrote: post #12

1080p screen is a no-go. come on yall, it's 2021

I would have thought the same several years ago. At age 40+, 1080p on a laptop is still good. Even at 1080p, I have to go into accessibility settings to enlarge text. I'm pretty much out of the market for 4k screens on laptops these days. Also had to switch to a big phone and crank up the text size.

4K on laptops should be a bless, not pain, with recent enough Windows - you shouldn’t need to try enlarging text by lowering output resolution. That was a Windows quirk that everything assumes 96dpi regardless of dpi.

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Post by Guest42 »

Synaesthesia wrote: post #118
neogodless wrote: post #47

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Looks like the increase from 8GB to 32GB is going from ~3W to 12W of power consumption. The CPU likely consumes 30-45W depending on configuration. So it's not trivial, all things considered.

CPUS or SOCs these days can achieve quite low power states when in idle, like aingle digit watts. Where do you get the 12w from?

Thanks for followup, I was curious if the ram was allocated in blocks if sections could go unused.

Right now I have 16gb and it's been great and I generally don't put much pressure on it (except for some occasional Android Studio virtualizing).

However, it seems as though software resource usage has a tendency to creep up over time so it seemed like more RAM would be a safe option. I also tend to use the computer more lightly when it's unplugged.

I don't know much about hardware so all input is appreciated.

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Post by neogodless »

Synaesthesia wrote: post #118
neogodless wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looks like the increase from 8GB to 32GB is going from ~3W to 12W of power consumption. The CPU likely consumes 30-45W depending on configuration. So it's not trivial, all things considered.

CPUS or SOCs these days can achieve quite low power states when in idle, like aingle digit watts. Where do you get the 12w from?

Just a preliminary web search.

Here's one example:

https://www.crucial.com/support/articles-faq-memory/how-much...

> As a rule of thumb, however, you want to allocate around 3 watts of power for every 8GB of DDR3 or DDR4 memory. High-performance memory such as Ballistix® parts can draw more power, especially if you overclock the voltage beyond XMP settings.

Similar numbers here for slower DDR4-2133.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i7-5960x-has...

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