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System76 Pangolin Linux-first laptop with AMD internals now in stock

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Re: System76 Pangolin Linux-first laptop with AMD internals now in stock

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Post by smegger001 »

1MachineElf wrote: post #5
protomyth wrote: post #2

I wish a person could order one of these without the numeric keypad. I deeply hate being off-center to the screen when typing on these larger portables.

Agreed. The least they could do, if a numpad really is necessary, is put something of equal size on the left side. A macro pad would be novel, or even just a left numpad so that right-hand mouse users could enter numbers at the same time.

i wonder if splitting the alphabet portion of the keyboard down the middle and putting the numpad in between would work. It would look like some unholy abomination but may be more ergonmoic

Re: System76 Pangolin Linux-first laptop with AMD internals now in stock

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Post by teekert »

winter_blue wrote: post #38

The price is a bit too high (as always with System76). Last year, for the same price ($1,199) on sale, I bought a ASUS Zephyrus G14 with a Ryzen 4900HS and RTX 2060. Right now, you get it (for a bit more) with a 5900HS and RTX 3060. Both the 5900HS and the 4900HS will beat the low-wattage 5700U in performance handily. The G14 has a 76 Wh, so despite the “higher”-power (35 Watt) CPU, it’ll still get a LOT of battery l…

System76 is nice, in this podcast the CEO is interviewed: [0]. He is dedicated to transparency, open source and privacy. They’re worth some extra money to me. Although I’m still waiting for their custom designed, all aluminium top of the line laptop :)

[0]: https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/linux-unplugged/id6875...

Re: System76 Pangolin Linux-first laptop with AMD internals now in stock

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Post by vzaliva »

protomyth wrote: post #2

I wish a person could order one of these without the numeric keypad. I deeply hate being off-center to the screen when typing on these larger portables.

They definetely need such option for people like me. For me, wasting such a big chunk of my keyboard for keys I never use is a no-go.

Re: System76 Pangolin Linux-first laptop with AMD internals now in stock

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Post by Aperocky »

loudtieblahblah wrote: post #30
protomyth wrote: post #2

I wish a person could order one of these without the numeric keypad. I deeply hate being off-center to the screen when typing on these larger portables.

i deeply hate being without a numpad. I understand it's duplicated space, but typing numbers on a numpad is just a million times faster than going above the alphabet keys.

is it? I don't think it's any slower than typing other characters.

Re: System76 Pangolin Linux-first laptop with AMD internals now in stock

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Post by caslon »

johnzim wrote: post #8
protomyth wrote: post #2

I wish a person could order one of these without the numeric keypad. I deeply hate being off-center to the screen when typing on these larger portables.

I have no idea who thought this was a good idea. The trackpad is even off to the left to accommodate it. I'm not a fan of symmetry for symmetry's sake, but I do think some affordances for the human body might be a good idea. How do southpaws enjoy this keyboard setup? The ergonomics of laptops are bad enough without stuff like this.

Southpaw here! I'd never buy a laptop without a number pad. The track pad being off-center is also good.

Gaming? 78462 make for the best movement, and the number pad also has seven non-numerical buttons to bind things to. It also puts your index finger right next to lENTER, which is so useful for games that make use of it.

Programming? Bind the buttons to commonly-used UNIX programs to make for a better IDE than an IDE.

Calculating? So nice to have an ergonomic numerical input.

Re: System76 Pangolin Linux-first laptop with AMD internals now in stock

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Post by heurisko »

jagger27 wrote: post #21
jandrese wrote: post #9

The specs page is a bit vague in places. Graphics AMD Radeon™ Graphics Storage 1 x M.2 SSD(SATA or PCIe NVMe). Up to 2TB total. In the configurator you have to pay attention to the read speeds to figure out if you are getting a SATA or PCIe drive. There is no indication for which brand of drive they are using. I have a few SSD controllers that are on my do not buy list, like anything made by Sandforce[1] after we los…

For graphics, the 5500U has 7 CUs at 1800 MHz. The 5700U has 8 CUs at 1900 MHz. They're both ancient Vega APUs so they're really nothing special.

I have the 4500u with the AMD Radeon RX Vega 6.

I know it's not the latest architecture, but I've found it very capable for integrated graphics.

Re: System76 Pangolin Linux-first laptop with AMD internals now in stock

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Post by nawgz »

protomyth wrote: post #2

I wish a person could order one of these without the numeric keypad. I deeply hate being off-center to the screen when typing on these larger portables.

As someone who just ordered a 60% and found themself amazed at how usable it was - even missing classic keys like the arrow keys - I also can't believe they would go for numpad. Very oldschool for such a modern product.

Re: System76 Pangolin Linux-first laptop with AMD internals now in stock

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Post by albertgoeswoof »

caslon wrote: post #57
johnzim wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have no idea who thought this was a good idea. The trackpad is even off to the left to accommodate it. I'm not a fan of symmetry for symmetry's sake, but I do think some affordances for the human body might be a good idea. How do southpaws enjoy this keyboard setup? The ergonomics of laptops are bad enough without stuff like this.

Southpaw here! I'd never buy a laptop without a number pad. The track pad being off-center is also good. Gaming? 78462 make for the best movement, and the number pad also has seven non-numerical buttons to bind things to. It also puts your index finger right next to lENTER, which is so useful for games that make use of it. Programming? Bind the buttons to commonly-used UNIX programs to make for a better IDE than an I…

Yes the numpad comes in useful when I’m calculating all day
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