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Zoom court hearing postponed after accused found in same location as witness

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Re: Zoom court hearing postponed after accused found in same location as witness

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Either zoom has an opportunity to add a location-verification privacy nightmare of a feature, or a startup can make a zoom replacement for the unique needs of a remote justice system.

Remote proctored exams have already put in place measures (both process and technical) to address a number of these issues.

Re: Zoom court hearing postponed after accused found in same location as witness

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Transcripts are already public information. The accused obviously already knows where she lives. How does this affect her security? Even if we could keep the identity of witnesses secret, we don’t want to. We have the right to confront our accusers, and we don’t want secret trials.

It allows more people to go and attack her, and opens the door to much more violence in the future. Now instead of 1 predator knowing where she lives there are a million. Is that good? Transcripts should redact addresses and contact information.

Your thought process is wild. I honestly cannot see where you're coming from.

Re: Zoom court hearing postponed after accused found in same location as witness

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Transcripts are already public information. The accused obviously already knows where she lives. How does this affect her security? Even if we could keep the identity of witnesses secret, we don’t want to. We have the right to confront our accusers, and we don’t want secret trials.

It allows more people to go and attack her, and opens the door to much more violence in the future. Now instead of 1 predator knowing where she lives there are a million. Is that good? Transcripts should redact addresses and contact information.

It's a harder problem that. Secrecy in courts is a tool often used by totalitarian dictatorships, a blanket objection to that sort of thing may actually do more good than harm. In a practical sense I totally agree with omitting addresses specifically but I also understand the skepticism of any reduction of transparency in the courts.

Re: Zoom court hearing postponed after accused found in same location as witness

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It allows more people to go and attack her, and opens the door to much more violence in the future. Now instead of 1 predator knowing where she lives there are a million. Is that good? Transcripts should redact addresses and contact information.

It's a harder problem that. Secrecy in courts is a tool often used by totalitarian dictatorships, a blanket objection to that sort of thing may actually do more good than harm. In a practical sense I totally agree with omitting addresses specifically but I also understand the skepticism of any reduction of transparency in the courts.

It's not secrecy, you can be totally transparent about who is involved without revealing their residential address.

Courts don't post SSNs and bank account numbers in their transcripts, and residential addresses should be treated with the same level of privacy.

Re: Zoom court hearing postponed after accused found in same location as witness

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Transcripts are already public information. The accused obviously already knows where she lives. How does this affect her security? Even if we could keep the identity of witnesses secret, we don’t want to. We have the right to confront our accusers, and we don’t want secret trials.

It allows more people to go and attack her, and opens the door to much more violence in the future. Now instead of 1 predator knowing where she lives there are a million. Is that good? Transcripts should redact addresses and contact information.

I do not know if you know this, but back in the day, we used to publish entire doxxing books, listing everyone's address and home phone number. It was opt-out, and almost nobody did.

Why are people today suddenly so worried about that?

Re: Zoom court hearing postponed after accused found in same location as witness

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post #3

This is the same judge who had a defendant join a Zoom hearing using the name, "Buttfucker 3000". https://www.vice.com/en/article/88ng9g/judge-has-no-patience...

and for those that think this is an anomaly (one judge getting these odd/crazy cases…) this is what trial court is actually like (nearly) all day every day.

Re: Zoom court hearing postponed after accused found in same location as witness

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It allows more people to go and attack her, and opens the door to much more violence in the future. Now instead of 1 predator knowing where she lives there are a million. Is that good? Transcripts should redact addresses and contact information.

I do not know if you know this, but back in the day, we used to publish entire doxxing books, listing everyone's address and home phone number. It was opt-out, and almost nobody did. Why are people today suddenly so worried about that?

Just because it happened in the past doesn't make it right.

Lots of very grave things were done in history that we now know to be mistakes.

Also, I always opted out in those days. I should still be able to do that today.

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