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The Winners of Remote Work

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Re: The Winners of Remote Work

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Only if you consider Remote Global Work. As a European, it is very disheartening to see how many companies espouse "we are now embracing remote work company-wide", which on closer inspection means "California hours +-2h time difference".

Just go work for an European Unicorn.

...do you have their phone number?

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Never too late to switch. Maybe this remote working trend will lead to outsourcing of programmers and we’ll see a rise of electrician and carpenter bootcamps as people flee software development. You’ll just be ahead of the curve.

Or be the one that sells the bootcamps, or even the one that sells a prebuilt platform that creates bootcamps to those that are selling the bootcamps. Picks and shovels so to speak. But wait now you're developing software again.

Its like a platform for platforms but on the cloud yes?

Re: The Winners of Remote Work

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post #27

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I believe this has something to do with the statistical distribution of compensation - normal-like for electricians, dentists, and more power-like for coders and people from highly creative or sports fields.

It's all about leverage. There are certainly less good and better electricians and dentists, but at the end of the day they can only string so much wire and drill so many teeth in a day at rates that are pretty much set by the market. They have some leverage if they set up a business and employ people but there are still both lower and upper bounds. Whereas a Pro Bowl quarterback or A-list movie star is worth maybe $…

People run out of teeth, there is no limit to code. And if your dentist runs late you don't hire three dentists to make them run even later.

Re: The Winners of Remote Work

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This makes complete sense – just another example of power law dynamics of the internet. Short-term, we're going to see companies pursue a remote model in order to attract talent. This will be great for employees; live in Colorado, go on hikes and have a great lifestyle while commanding a SF salary! Longer-term, companies are going to realize that (except for the top ~10% of performers, who will always command a high…

The focus on programmers as the vanguard of the remote work trend distracts from what could be the real change the outsourcing of white collar work. Why do we need our lawyers, accountants, human resources and other back office employees to be American when Chilean workers will do those jobs for half or a quarter the pay? What outsourcing did to manufacturing jobs, remote work may do to white collar jobs.

Law and accountancy is much harder to outsource than programming. You usually have to be U.S certified so thats pretty much protected.

Re: The Winners of Remote Work

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This makes complete sense – just another example of power law dynamics of the internet. Short-term, we're going to see companies pursue a remote model in order to attract talent. This will be great for employees; live in Colorado, go on hikes and have a great lifestyle while commanding a SF salary! Longer-term, companies are going to realize that (except for the top ~10% of performers, who will always command a high…

There are real drawbacks to remote only in terms of culture and employee committment. Those who can afford it will probably keep being hybrid I think. Those who want to cut costs will outsource. But since software companies are swimming in money I am not sure its a huge priority.

Re: The Winners of Remote Work

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> Google [...] would reduce the pay of those who choose to work remotely or move farther from the office. Avoiding the office saves employees money — in commuting costs, for example I don't understand the reasoning behind this, and I've seen it being used again and again. Employees are compensated on the work they provide during work hours, and only rarely do companies provide compensation to specifically accommodate…

> Google [...] would reduce the pay of those who choose to work remotely or move farther from the office. Sample size of 1 here: Google approved my working remotely in a small town outside a major city at the same compensation as working in the office in that major city. So no pay cut. I think there's a game of telephone going on with the facts in these articles: "could see different changes in pay" -> could lose mon…

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Re: The Winners of Remote Work

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post #53

> Google [...] would reduce the pay of those who choose to work remotely or move farther from the office. Avoiding the office saves employees money — in commuting costs, for example I don't understand the reasoning behind this, and I've seen it being used again and again. Employees are compensated on the work they provide during work hours, and only rarely do companies provide compensation to specifically accommodate…

> Employees are compensated on the work they provide during work hours.

Industry-average compensation is primarily a function of supply and demand. Remote work increases labor supply and decreases costs of labor. Both of these factors will cause compensation to go down. How employers justify pay decreases is largely besides the point, imo.

Re: The Winners of Remote Work

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I have done remote work for a long time (because ...Canada), and the real issue is that it requires management to have their shit together. I also assess companies for acquisitions now so I talk every month to companies about what's working and what isn't. I've seen some very successful companies with partially remote or even 100% remote teams. And... they have their shit together. Managers have to actually know what…

The #1 question I wish I could get answered for any prospective company (as an interviewee): "Do you have your shit together?" Seriously. This could avoid so much heartache.

I think at a certain point in your career you often get hired because things are messed up. That isn't bad, that is why they are ready to pay for experience and skill.

Re: The Winners of Remote Work

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I have done remote work for a long time (because ...Canada), and the real issue is that it requires management to have their shit together. I also assess companies for acquisitions now so I talk every month to companies about what's working and what isn't. I've seen some very successful companies with partially remote or even 100% remote teams. And... they have their shit together. Managers have to actually know what…

The #1 question I wish I could get answered for any prospective company (as an interviewee): "Do you have your shit together?" Seriously. This could avoid so much heartache.

It’s actually fairly easy to ask, and many candidates ask me that: “how do you organize yourselves?”

It’s a very reasonable question to ask during an interview.

Re: The Winners of Remote Work

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post #16

The only winners of remote work will be those who are self disciplined enough to get work done without outside supervision or motivation. That goes for every single field that does remote work - learning, teaching, Knowledge work etc. But let’s be honest - some people need the motivation of a workplace — and that’s ok! We are all different. Im somewhere in the middle… love working from home but it’s easy to get distr…

> love working from home but it’s easy to get distracted with side projects, feeding birds, germinating seeds etc. For programmers at least “productivity” comes from writing leveragable code, not by working more hours. Watching birds, gardening and generally being relaxed and rested will increase the quality of the code you write. It may even allow you to envision solutions impossible to come up with under the daily…

That's lovely. I work in consulting and every hour I get distracted I have to make up at some other point in the day. usually late at night after my kid is asleep.

yes I'm looking for other work...

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