I think HN needs to update their algorithm. If there is a large number of upvotes and flags, flags should count as votes from some point on. More people need to see this post and discussion needs to happen instead of pushing it off the front page in less than an hour.
Docker Desktop no longer free for large companies
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#72If Docker wants to grow up, maybe they could start with replying to support tickets from paying customers. I have a 10 day old open ticket with no reply.
Hey sorry about that, can you send me the ticket details justin @ docker.com and I can look into it.
Policy success is directly dependent on how we handle requests for exception. Granting exceptions undermines people’s sense of fairness, and sets a precedent precedent that undermines future policy. In environments where exceptions become normalized, leaders often find that issuing writs of exception—for policies they themselves have designed—starts to swallow up much of their time. Organizations spending significant time on exceptions are experiencing exception debt. The escape is to stop working the exceptions, and instead work the policy.
Larson, Will. An Elegant Puzzle: Systems of Engineering Management (p. 122). Stripe Press. Kindle Edition.
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#73This appears to be cutting of their nose to spite their face. We have a team of 50+ engineers that all use Docker for Mac for daily development tasks, but I suspect that will no longer be true in a rather short amount of time. Frankly, I don’t really know if anybody actually uses the UI components for it outside of starting and stopping the engine and for basic configuration of the VM. Everything else that comes with…
Personally I think just running portainer as a container is a viable alternative to docket desktop.
But I never really used the UI much, so perhaps there are features I don’t know of.
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#74Curious to see what that means for Windows containers. Microsoft is heavily recommending Docker there, but asking people to license another thing from a third party just to be able to use a feature on their expensive Windows licenses seems somewhat on the nose for them to push.
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You can connect to a remote Docker engine instance over SSH, which is easier to setup than exposing the Docker socket over a TCP port. So install the client inside WSL and the engine on a Linux VM. EDIT: https://raesene.github.io/blog/2018/11/11/Docker-18-09-SSH/ was a blog I wrote when that feature landed, AFAIK it works the same way now :)
Or just use it inside WSL2, which already is a Linux VM?
I've never actually tried installing Docker engine in WSL2... might work I guess :)
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If you're doing $10M in ARR, how much engineering time are you going to spend to switch compared to paying Docker a few thousand dollars a month? Your spend on cloud and Slack (or other comms) is likely far higher. You're probably spending more on mobile/cell business service. "Docker attempting to monetize users of its product who can easily afford the cost." I mean, the terms seems reasonable, and wouldn't you rath…
I'll preface this by saying I'm an IBM employee. That being said your comment rubbed me the wrong way... > wouldn't you rather support Docker vs IBM (Redhat->Podman)? Podman is an open source product and Docker is not. I'd much rather support an open source project. And what's wrong with "supporting" IBM anyways? Did they hurt you in some way???
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as soon as a viable alternative to Docker Desktop for Mac exists I am done with this company forever (and they seem to be anticipating that)
why do you need the Docker Desktop? Can't you just use the command line? I mostly use Docker on Linux and even then I've almost switched everything over to Podman.
The Docker CLI can't do anything without the Docker daemon. Daemon (and containers) only runs on Linux. On Mac, it needs to run inside a Linux VM.
Before Docker Desktop, would need to create VM with Docker and connect to that. Docker Desktop makes that smooth and wraps in nice UI.
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#78I wonder how much Docker is paying Synk.io for 200/mo Local vulnerability scans with Snyk?
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I'll preface this by saying I'm an IBM employee. That being said your comment rubbed me the wrong way... > wouldn't you rather support Docker vs IBM (Redhat->Podman)? Podman is an open source product and Docker is not. I'd much rather support an open source project. And what's wrong with "supporting" IBM anyways? Did they hurt you in some way???
> And what's wrong with "supporting" IBM anyways? Did they hurt you in some way??? They are a dysfunctional consultancy masquerading as a technology firm, running on inertia. They are not to be supported. (Also, my genuine condolences) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24228972 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26532125 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26869877 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22224782…
FWIW, we've divested/spun off the "consultancy" part. And not every part of IBM is bad, there are a ton of great developers and teams that work here, no condolences needed. I quite enjoy doing what I do here. Lots of innovation in multiple areas, but I guess if you have to drink the startup koolaid prevalent here on HN, be my guest.
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> And what's wrong with "supporting" IBM anyways? Did they hurt you in some way??? They are a dysfunctional consultancy masquerading as a technology firm, running on inertia. They are not to be supported. (Also, my genuine condolences) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24228972 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26532125 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26869877 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22224782…
FWIW, we've divested/spun off the "consultancy" part. And not every part of IBM is bad, there are a ton of great developers and teams that work here, no condolences needed. I quite enjoy doing what I do here. Lots of innovation in multiple areas, but I guess if you have to drink the startup koolaid prevalent here on HN, be my guest.
I'm not at a startup nor drink the koolaid [1]. I am a consultant, so I get to see how the sausage is made across a wide variety of orgs. In my long tenure in tech (20+ years), I have arrived at evangelizing and encouraging engineering first and data driven organizations; in my experience, that provides the best environment for technologists to have autonomy, while pursuing mastery and purpose (which, hopefully, enables some amount of fulfillment alongside financial compensation). IBM is not such an org, hence my comment(s), but there are startups, enterprises, and a fat middle of SMB businesses that truly are innovative and can demonstrate results to back up that description of themselves.
TLDR I want the best experience for my fellow technologists and engineers.