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100% of Google Analytics authors are tech savvy.
This is called irony.
Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics
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#422It would be 100% if I could do it on mobile.
NextDNS does comprehensive blackholing of tracking and ads, very limited battery impact. Works on ios and android. I think their free tier is very generous at 300k lookups/month; otherwise it's something cheap like 2€/month if you want unlimited lookups (i use this to block tracking on all my devices + home network)
> very limited battery impact.
Why would it use any extra battery? The phone has to make DNS lookups whether its with the one from nextDns or from the DHCP server.
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#423Why is this even at the front page of HN? I give them credit for the brilliant marketing. This is an ad disguised as an article targeting the "tech savvy" by bundling HN and Reddit (a truth + a lie makes the statement more true), a common clickbait tactic > This makes sense especially considering how difficult it is to install an adblocker on Chrome, the most popular browser on mobile devices. Nope, it is really easy…
Well, for extra irony, I use the Steven Black /etc/hosts content to block on the order of 70,000 domain names, and plausible.io is in there. So I can't even read the article because I'm one of the people it describes.
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#424There is a German movie about the system that is used to gather TV ratings. It's a special box that some users get which reports what they are watching. Small sample size goes into a big statistic (not sure how accurate the portrayal of the system in the movie is). These boxes are given to the people who pay the German public TV fee, which excludes i.e. students (they don't have to pay) and some other groups. This gr…
So you want more targeted ads for tech savvy people? I wouldn’t give ad tech that much credit. Many tech savvy people have cut the cord and watch TV through streaming. Anecdotally, I watch Hulu. Hulu knows so so so much about me yet zero of the ads are targeted. They very much have this capability (engineering resources) but due to a number of reasons I can only assume (network contracts, ad bids) it just probably isn’t going to happen. I would love if I could have an ad blocklist cause one more Progressive Ad will drive me bonkers.
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#425It amazes me that over the last 10-20 years an astonishing amount of money and intellectual capital have been invested in adtech and crypto but nothing in micropayments. Ads are evil, but it will remain a moot point until we have working micropayments. We have (and will have) ads with all their downsides exactly because we don't have micropayments, because ads basically work as a substitute to micropayments.
I feel like most on the producer side are coming at this from a totally wrong angle. A better web isn't a web in which content is monetized in a different way. Consumers don't want to pay because most content on the web is not worth paying for. Not with ads, not with micropayments, not with anything. There's the saying about five web sites consisting of screenshots of the other four, but even with news, the vast bulk…
> Consumers don't want to pay because most content on the web is not worth paying for.
This can be true at the same as another truth: consumers would pay for some content on the web if it was convenient to pay small amounts for it on an ad-hoc basis. Nobody is suggesting that most of the web is worth paying for, but that doesn't mean that none of it is, and it also doesn't mean that subscription models (which mostly avoid the micropayment "problem") should be the only way to address this.
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#426Earlier quoted context omitted.
The Samsung browser isn't actually that bad at all. Has some neat features that can't be found in Firefox or even Chrome, like the enhanced video playback tools. Plus it supports adblocking plug ins (though only FF has the much better ublock origin). Keep in mind that tons of website just outright won't work with Firefox mobile too, and it has a very annoying bug that has been known for years where all your tabs will…
> Keep in mind that tons of website just outright won't work with Firefox mobile I know this anecdotal but I'm using FF on Android (Lineage OS without google apps/micro g etc. - only F-Droid) and the only site that causes issues is google.com. For some unknown reason it servers images in much lower quality. Of course it's not a technical limitation. If you change your UA to chrome everything goes back to normal. That…
I've had some issues with layout mostly and I never use google products on Firefox, but that may be due to ublock being aggressive with it's filters. And yeah the tab reloading is weird because it only affects some people and when it does it's very constant. Honestly I didn't mind since I'm not affected by the bug anymore since I've upgraded my phone.
The real problem was the add-on removal. I know you can still get them through the collections work around on Firefox nightly but... It's a pain and I'm still honestly baffled that Mozilla would just remove one of the only "selling" points for their mobile browser. I'm not averse to change and I get that it is sometimes needed to cut complexity, so I got why they needed to depreciate stuff likd XAML. But in this case afaik nothing was communicated, the new engine already supports the add ons... but only on nightly? Very puzzling
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#427Ok, so I sheepishly admit that didn't know how to block analytics. Now I do.
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#428> Plausible proxy runs as a first-party connection and is only blocked by those visitors who block JavaScript entirely. It is not blocked by any browser or adblocker
Would be interested to also include that into the statistics. How many nerds block javascript? I wouldn't be counted by the plausible proxy since I disable javascript per default via ublock and if I allow javascript I still filter it using uMatrix.
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#429There is a German movie about the system that is used to gather TV ratings. It's a special box that some users get which reports what they are watching. Small sample size goes into a big statistic (not sure how accurate the portrayal of the system in the movie is). These boxes are given to the people who pay the German public TV fee, which excludes i.e. students (they don't have to pay) and some other groups. This gr…
So you want more targeted ads for tech savvy people? I wouldn’t give ad tech that much credit. Many tech savvy people have cut the cord and watch TV through streaming. Anecdotally, I watch Hulu. Hulu knows so so so much about me yet zero of the ads are targeted. They very much have this capability (engineering resources) but due to a number of reasons I can only assume (network contracts, ad bids) it just probably is…
I don't live in the ad tech world, so I only vague know what is interconnected. Do the tech giants just sell info back and forth to each other?
For example, When I watch youtube on my Roku, if im not signed in, does roku still aggregate what I watched on youtube, could that be sold to Hulu, for ads when I watch that on the same tv?
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#430Earlier quoted context omitted.
But then again Netflix et al, zero ads Spotify premium, zero ads I think it's just a question of coming up with the right model. Assuming that failed examples are the rule isn't all that useful
For now, Netflix and Spotify have no ads. I have a feeling that if these companies feel the pinch during a bad quarter or two, they will 100% start introducing ads. That's how business works, they want to maximize revenue. TV publishers have traditionally charged a fee on top of the ads. That demonstrates that audiences are fine with it. 100% Netflix and Spotify will eventually have ads.
> TV publishers have traditionally charged a fee on top of the ads.
While not wanting to get into a debate about what is and isn't an ad in the context of US public broadcasting, this claim is not true of public broadcasting worldwide.