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Apple proposes adding "model" element to HTML that displays 3D content

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Re: Apple proposes adding "model" element to HTML that displays 3D content

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post #8

WebGL exists, why do we need a budget restricted version of a model viewer in the browser? None of the motivations are at all convincing. Should browsers now be obliged to integrate with VR headsets?

Also, both VRML and Web3D do exist.

Not used Web3D but VRML is a dead language. Which is a pity because VRML was extremely fun to code in. Sadly it was a victim of being release too early (even VRML2 was out before most people 3D accelerators).

Re: Apple proposes adding "model" element to HTML that displays 3D content

#33
post #21

Why not just use the existing object element? There is a section "Why add a new element?", but it only talks about canvas!

They also said the following:

> It would be possible to reuse one of the generic embedding elements, such as or , for this purpose. However, we think that 3D content should behave like other media types.

I think their argument is that although it is semantically possible to use object, they think this would be clearer for the future.

Re: Apple proposes adding "model" element to HTML that displays 3D content

#34
post #10

> Privacy considerations Rendered data is not exposed to / extractable by the page in this proposal, so no tainting is required. We do expect this would require extensions to Fetch (a new destination type), Content Security Policy (a new policy directive), and likely a few others. I do buy 3d model data occasionally (hobby, not for professional uses). I think most stores obfustcate the data somehow although I never t…

My understanding is basically that DRM is the technology that permits the existence of Netflix and similar. Perhaps I just lack a strength of principle, but I don't see why you'd remove one of the most-enjoyed aspects of the internet for the sake of uh... some kind of privacy-adjacent something?

We got to an ok compromise of video tags and native browser support, with DRM extension for corporate needs/reqs... Is it the best? No. Could it worse, definitely.

But without it youd need a Netflix app on your PC... And what safeguards does that have from hoovering my pc usage up for sale or marketing? Atleast Netflix only gets MY Netflix consumption for their metrics and ML, and isn't cross referencing the games I play or other things I'm doing at the same time.

Re: Apple proposes adding "model" element to HTML that displays 3D content

#36
post #14

I don't understand why a 3D geometry model would best be called simply "model" in the context of HTML. The term "model" is a pretty generic term that's very relevant to HTML, already used heavily in Web frameworks, etc.

Because "3dmodel" is not a valid identifier?

Re: Apple proposes adding "model" element to HTML that displays 3D content

#38
If this gets accepted into webkit, which is now nearly synonymous with "HTML", would it be a huge porting effort to get this working with Firefox, the only other HTML implementation I can think of?

(I understand that other webkit forks could have this code easily applied.)

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