Partisan attachment: How politics is changing dating and relationships (2020)
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Re: Partisan attachment: How politics is changing dating and relationships (2020)
#2My perception of the mindset of the typical liberal in the past was that it was more about making change for the benefit of everyone in the country (don’t worry conservatives , this will work out for the best). Now it is more about making change that benefits some at the expense of others (screw you conservatives). In order to push political agendas like this, political opposition needs to be more negatively portrayed and demonized. My perception of conservatives is that they are trending in this direction too, and the result is more fracturing of our societies.
Re: Partisan attachment: How politics is changing dating and relationships (2020)
#3My 2 pennies:
Living in a secular society where religion plays a reduced part on the individual, compared with 50 years ago.
People now fill the gaps with other banners to fly and differentiate themselves with.
Re: Partisan attachment: How politics is changing dating and relationships (2020)
#4This was me circa 2012-2013. I hadn't realized it yet, but was quite liberal minded compared to my fellow church mates.
I tried talking to someone who is rather politically conservative (she eventually ran for office). In our conversations, I just kept finding myself thinking... that's not how I view that... at all.
Nothing became of the relationship, but doubt it would have maintained anyway.
For me, it was the first time trying to date across the isle with someone who was politically aware and was very eye opening.
Re: Partisan attachment: How politics is changing dating and relationships (2020)
#5My perception of the mindset of the typical liberal in the past was that it was more about making change for the benefit of everyone in the country (don’t worry conservatives , this will work out for the best). Now it is more about making change that benefits some at the expense of others (screw you conservatives). In order to push political agendas like this, political opposition needs to be more negatively portraye…
'Liberal' and 'conservative' are just labels that no longer describe the same ideologies as in the past.
19th C liberals were sort of like modern day libertarians, but in the context of the European monarchies at the time which were explicitly oppressive.
20th century progressives with their universal social programs were social democrats.
Modern day liberals are split between 'centrist' neo-liberals and more hardcore leftists.
The neo-libs are basically still trying to promote universalish improvement, but are not willing to tax their corporate donors to do it. So all they're left with is culture war posturing and legislation, since that's fiscally free.
The more hardcore leftists, in America, seem to heavily skew towards helping particular disadvantaged groups, as opposed to the universalizing efforts of early 20th C socialists(be it racial or sexual minorities or whatever). And some of these groups care more about equality than they do absolute improvement for everyone.
As for conservatives, modern day American conservatism is HARD reactionary and in no way conservative. The social programs they are trying to privatize and dismantle have existed for 60-80 years. The conservative position would be to preserve things like Social Security and Medicare. If anything the most conservative force, when it comes to the role of government, in American politics right now are the Centrist Democrats, since they're the party of small tweaks.
Re: Partisan attachment: How politics is changing dating and relationships (2020)
#6My 2 pennies: Living in a secular society where religion plays a reduced part on the individual, compared with 50 years ago. People now fill the gaps with other banners to fly and differentiate themselves with.
I agree, religion offers simple ways to classify actions as good or bad. Following the church teachings or priest's guidance was enough to make an individual confident they are a good person, doing good things.
Meanwhile, in real life, everything is complex, few things are clearly good or bad, everything has advantages and disadvantages. People need a simple compass to distinguish good and bad. It seems the "political beliefs" are taking up that space in a secular society.
Re: Partisan attachment: How politics is changing dating and relationships (2020)
#7Conservatives currently out reproduce liberals for whatever reason, for example:
https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-conservative-fertility-advant...
I wonder if it is purely cultural or is there a genetic component? If there is low fertility because of a genetic component, that is likely going to targeted hard by evolution now.
(Will evolution select against women getting higher education like Masters or PhD? Because that is one of the biggest predictors of reduced fertility.)
What does this mean for liberal views? Are they destined to become more conservative over time if there is a genetic component which is being selected against?
So interesting. I wish we could track genetic changes along with political changes over time. I bet there is more happening there than we think.
EDIT: Here is a large meta analysis paper that seems to indicate that genetics influences political ideology: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4038932/pdf/nih...
Re: Partisan attachment: How politics is changing dating and relationships (2020)
#8Conservatives currently out reproduce liberals for whatever reason, for example: https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-conservative-fertility-advant... I wonder if it is purely cultural or is there a genetic component? If there is low fertility because of a genetic component, that is likely going to targeted hard by evolution now. (Will evolution select against women getting higher education like Masters or PhD? Because tha…
Conservatives live in less expensive areas and often have less wealth, two things that often drive reproduction rates up higher. I feel comfortable Occam’s Razoring that up as the explanation
Re: Partisan attachment: How politics is changing dating and relationships (2020)
#9Conservatives currently out reproduce liberals for whatever reason, for example: https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-conservative-fertility-advant... I wonder if it is purely cultural or is there a genetic component? If there is low fertility because of a genetic component, that is likely going to targeted hard by evolution now. (Will evolution select against women getting higher education like Masters or PhD? Because tha…
Conservative parents don't necessarily produce conservative children.
Re: Partisan attachment: How politics is changing dating and relationships (2020)
#10Conservatives currently out reproduce liberals for whatever reason, for example: https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-conservative-fertility-advant... I wonder if it is purely cultural or is there a genetic component? If there is low fertility because of a genetic component, that is likely going to targeted hard by evolution now. (Will evolution select against women getting higher education like Masters or PhD? Because tha…
X -> doubt
Education is correlated with both low birth rates and liberal political views, and culture surrounding politics and reproduction changes a lot faster than population genetics.