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Australian Police get online account takeover, data disruption powers

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Re: Australian Police get online account takeover, data disruption powers

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Post by BLKNSLVR »

monkeybutton wrote: post #16

Is this the same thing or related to Australian police having the power to compel (under threat of 10 years imprisonment to those who refuse) systems administrators to aid in investigations? I'm not Australian but seeing these sorts of laws being implemented in other commonwealth countries is concerning given how often they spread.

It's pretty much an extension of that law, which was already questionable.

As an Australian, with the minimal amount of the type of crime that these bills are said to be aimed at in comparison to other parts of the world (like those that actually have physical borders with other countries 'n' shit), it feels as if Australia is being used as a pilot country for the ratcheting (rat-shitting) up of this kind of control to (either or both) gauge public reaction and point to as an example of "well, they implemented it first, so there's precedent" for other five-eyes countries.

Re: Australian Police get online account takeover, data disruption powers

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Post by BLKNSLVR »

marcus_holmes wrote: post #23
alfiedotwtf wrote: post #9

I tried to tell people that this and worse would happen from the AABill but nobody actually cared. Even talking to a lot of tech-savvy people and tech-savvy lawyers, nope... at most, people raised an eyebrow but couldn't really care less. If people don't actually care, what more can someone do :(

They won't care until the stories of ordinary people suffering the consequences start emerging. But if the state can portray any victim of this legislation as a criminal, even plant digital evidence that they were conducting criminal activity, then it'll still go unheeded. What we need is good (investigative) journalism to keep the politicians and oligarchs in check. But the business model for that got destroyed and…

Apparently Murdoch isn't a fan of the recent 4 Corners story about the lawsuits against Fox for towing Trump li(n)es about "stolen election!!, so Imma go home and watch it, and I suggest you do too.

Re: Australian Police get online account takeover, data disruption powers

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Post by fwsgonzo »

lugged wrote: post #28
jka wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A list of credit card numbers could be modified so that, for example, real people are not affected, and/or to add "watermark" card numbers that identify the precise origin of the dataset if it is ever used. Hopefully there are strong guards against modified data being used to entrap, and also against modified data being used as evidence. (I'm not yet sure whether these policies are sensible; just trying to figure out…

> Hopefully Lol. You misunderstand the Australian government's propensity for shitfuckery.

I have to agree. That's the most naive thing I've read today. Powers are always abused to a degree, and some more than others. In the "decent" corner of the world the police have less powers, and I think we can extrapolate from that alone.

Re: Australian Police get online account takeover, data disruption powers

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Post by mickotron »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #29
patchtopic wrote: post #21

I am disgusted by the mostly apathetic response in Australia to this terrible legislation.

It's just another thing to add to the pile. Australians have got it too good to care about this sort of thing. Like western society and climate change, taking any kind of action gets in the way of enjoying the fucking weekend; don't be such a fucking downer. More sunshine I say!

I stopped writing to my federal member Jim Chalmers about the shitty legislation. I never get a response, I doubt his office even reads them.

Re: Australian Police get online account takeover, data disruption powers

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Post by dekken_ »

lugged wrote: post #28
jka wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A list of credit card numbers could be modified so that, for example, real people are not affected, and/or to add "watermark" card numbers that identify the precise origin of the dataset if it is ever used. Hopefully there are strong guards against modified data being used to entrap, and also against modified data being used as evidence. (I'm not yet sure whether these policies are sensible; just trying to figure out…

> Hopefully Lol. You misunderstand the Australian government's propensity for shitfuckery.

Evidence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk4XR6lsQ3o

Re: Australian Police get online account takeover, data disruption powers

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Post by someotherperson »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #29
patchtopic wrote: post #21

I am disgusted by the mostly apathetic response in Australia to this terrible legislation.

It's just another thing to add to the pile. Australians have got it too good to care about this sort of thing. Like western society and climate change, taking any kind of action gets in the way of enjoying the fucking weekend; don't be such a fucking downer. More sunshine I say!

> Australians have got it too good to care about this sort of thing. Like western society and climate change, taking any kind of action gets in the way of enjoying the fucking weekend; don't be such a fucking downer. More sunshine I say!

Nonsense. The problem is that the minority parties who oppose overreach like this are treated as dirty (Liberal Democratic Party) and the major parties all support crap like this. And we'll stay in this situation until the focus turns away from trying to ban recreational fishing[0] and steers back towards civil liberties. Of course, any mention of civil liberties today has you called an extremist in Australia by almost every single political party from Labour to the Greens.

[0] http://www.sportingshooter.com.au/latest/proposed-animal-cru...

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