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Forest Service officials close all California national forests

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Re: Forest Service officials close all California national forests

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Biden manages national forests, Newsom had no say.

Newsom had opportunities to get PG&E to bury power lines before they burned down half the state.

The Caldor fire has been conclusively linked to PG&E now?

Re: Forest Service officials close all California national forests

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Go north. Montana, Idaho, etc. Wind River range is absolutely breathtaking. Just be grizzly aware.

You had me until the last part about the grizzlies.

Taking Yellowstone for example For all park visitors combined, the chances of being injured by a grizzly bear are approximately 1 in 2.7 million visits. So very good odds.

https://www.nps.gov/yell/learn/nature/injuries.htm

Re: Forest Service officials close all California national forests

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Perfect timing for Newsom

HN is getting more political. Just something I’ve noticed. Not saying it’s a bad thing, but a reflection of political tribalism.

I don’t belong to a tribe, but I can still appreciate how horribly run California is.

Re: Forest Service officials close all California national forests

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The US National Forrest and Calfire have been on the losing side of this fire so far. All the technology that produces memes that spread across the globe in seconds and launches and lands orbital rockets flawlessly cannot stop this fire. This has been a dry summer which can be attributed to global warming. I for one am not a defeatist that will let global warming beat me. We need to think of solutions to fires like t…

As a thought experiment, I wonder what it would cost to build a European village scale town for 22k people (the population of SLT) and then literally build a moat around it as a firebreak.

A moat won't protect from flying embers.

Re: Forest Service officials close all California national forests

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Does anyone know, with the scope of fires over the last couple years, is California on track to naturally normalize by burning through the most vulnerable forests or is this still not on that scale?

Dunno, but I heard estimated 60M dead trees to burn thru. Essentially every mountain slope in the state.

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Was planning to hike the JMT starting tomorrow from cottonwood meadow and ending on the 22nd. Permits canceled at 6pm tonight. Anyone got recommendations for a last minute 20 day off grid vacation? Have car, supplies, ready to go.

Bummer. I did my JMT in 2016. I can’t imagine your disappointment, because I know it takes a lot preparation. I’m curious, did they cancel all JMT permits because the JMT goes through Inyo, or is it only because you were entering from Inyo? I’m curious what happens to people entering from national parks (or people en route for that matter).

As for me, I’m supposed to be doing a 5 night, 60-ish mile loop in Yosemite this week, Sep. 2-7. We’ve had our eye on the air quality and shockingly all signs point to the air quality being quite good, although who knows what will happen!

Re: Forest Service officials close all California national forests

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The US National Forrest and Calfire have been on the losing side of this fire so far. All the technology that produces memes that spread across the globe in seconds and launches and lands orbital rockets flawlessly cannot stop this fire. This has been a dry summer which can be attributed to global warming. I for one am not a defeatist that will let global warming beat me. We need to think of solutions to fires like t…

> global warming Calling it that can be a trap. Stick to climate change.

The winters are not getting any colder.

Re: Forest Service officials close all California national forests

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Sad but probably efficient. I'm in bc where we've been devastated by forest fires, with cities burning and thousands evacuated. And yet, every other time I get out into the forest I see idiots smoking their freaking joints. The soil is half buried in super dry pine needles, but people still want their kick.

Re: Forest Service officials close all California national forests

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The US National Forrest and Calfire have been on the losing side of this fire so far. All the technology that produces memes that spread across the globe in seconds and launches and lands orbital rockets flawlessly cannot stop this fire. This has been a dry summer which can be attributed to global warming. I for one am not a defeatist that will let global warming beat me. We need to think of solutions to fires like t…

We need to apply Phos-Chek from ground based units

Phos Chek is not great for the environment, especially to aquatic life. So ideally there'd be some solution that doesn't use more of it.

agricultural level irrigation at the ready

The fires are exacerbated by California's long term drought, if there's large quanties of water laying around, then they probably wouldn't have such a bad fire season.

Inhabited locations in fire prone areas

I think there should be a re-evaluation of whether or not to let people build or rebuild in especially fire-prone areas.

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