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Forest Service officials close all California national forests

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Re: Forest Service officials close all California national forests

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Post by thehappypm »

markdown wrote: post #28
fasteddie31003 wrote: post #21

The US National Forrest and Calfire have been on the losing side of this fire so far. All the technology that produces memes that spread across the globe in seconds and launches and lands orbital rockets flawlessly cannot stop this fire. This has been a dry summer which can be attributed to global warming. I for one am not a defeatist that will let global warming beat me. We need to think of solutions to fires like t…

> global warming Calling it that can be a trap. Stick to climate change.

No, we need to stick with global warming. Overwhelmingly the direction is warming.

Re: Forest Service officials close all California national forests

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Post by thehappypm »

larkinrichards wrote: post #16

Was planning to hike the JMT starting tomorrow from cottonwood meadow and ending on the 22nd. Permits canceled at 6pm tonight. Anyone got recommendations for a last minute 20 day off grid vacation? Have car, supplies, ready to go.

PCT in Washington State?

Re: Forest Service officials close all California national forests

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Post by prawn »

fasteddie31003 wrote: post #21

The US National Forrest and Calfire have been on the losing side of this fire so far. All the technology that produces memes that spread across the globe in seconds and launches and lands orbital rockets flawlessly cannot stop this fire. This has been a dry summer which can be attributed to global warming. I for one am not a defeatist that will let global warming beat me. We need to think of solutions to fires like t…

Would fire retardant applied as required from static base units help in any way? Imagine a chain of them launching or exploding to release product as required. Then re-stocked after the event.

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Post by xnyan »

larkinrichards wrote: post #16

Was planning to hike the JMT starting tomorrow from cottonwood meadow and ending on the 22nd. Permits canceled at 6pm tonight. Anyone got recommendations for a last minute 20 day off grid vacation? Have car, supplies, ready to go.

Offbeat idea: The middle America route (SF to DC) is about 40 hours of driving. If you have enough drivers to do it in shifts, the appalachian trail in Virginia, North Carolina and Tennessee is fantastic right now.

Re: Forest Service officials close all California national forests

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Post by prawn »

larkinrichards wrote: post #16

Was planning to hike the JMT starting tomorrow from cottonwood meadow and ending on the 22nd. Permits canceled at 6pm tonight. Anyone got recommendations for a last minute 20 day off grid vacation? Have car, supplies, ready to go.

Array of 2-5 day options in Utah, if you haven't done much there before? Buckskin Gulch, Salt Creek Canyon, into The Maze overlook, Coyote Gulch, etc.

Re: Forest Service officials close all California national forests

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Post by w-j-w »

markdown wrote: post #28
fasteddie31003 wrote: post #21

The US National Forrest and Calfire have been on the losing side of this fire so far. All the technology that produces memes that spread across the globe in seconds and launches and lands orbital rockets flawlessly cannot stop this fire. This has been a dry summer which can be attributed to global warming. I for one am not a defeatist that will let global warming beat me. We need to think of solutions to fires like t…

> global warming Calling it that can be a trap. Stick to climate change.

People crying out "bUt iT wAs cOlD yEsTeRdAy" to global warming hardly counts as a trap. The way that the climate is changing is that it is getting warmer.

Re: Forest Service officials close all California national forests

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Post by burlesona »

fasteddie31003 wrote: post #21

The US National Forrest and Calfire have been on the losing side of this fire so far. All the technology that produces memes that spread across the globe in seconds and launches and lands orbital rockets flawlessly cannot stop this fire. This has been a dry summer which can be attributed to global warming. I for one am not a defeatist that will let global warming beat me. We need to think of solutions to fires like t…

As a thought experiment, I wonder what it would cost to build a European village scale town for 22k people (the population of SLT) and then literally build a moat around it as a firebreak.

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Post by maxerickson »

prawn wrote: post #33
fasteddie31003 wrote: post #21

The US National Forrest and Calfire have been on the losing side of this fire so far. All the technology that produces memes that spread across the globe in seconds and launches and lands orbital rockets flawlessly cannot stop this fire. This has been a dry summer which can be attributed to global warming. I for one am not a defeatist that will let global warming beat me. We need to think of solutions to fires like t…

Would fire retardant applied as required from static base units help in any way? Imagine a chain of them launching or exploding to release product as required. Then re-stocked after the event.

Suppression eventually becomes the problem.

And then there's the scale of what you propose.

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