Forest Service officials close all California national forests • Hacker News Board

Re: Forest Service officials close all California national forests

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Post by akira2501 » Tue, Aug 31, 2021, 2:40 AM UTC

jdavis703 wrote: post #5

pokstad wrote: post #3

Perfect timing for Newsom

Biden manages national forests, Newsom had no say.

This always comes off as buck-shifting to me. Newsom is the governor of the 5th largest economy in the world, I'm sure there are many unconventional mechanisms available to him to get action on these things.

Re: Forest Service officials close all California national forests

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Post by purple_ferret » Tue, Aug 31, 2021, 2:42 AM UTC

can't imagine investing in California. Has to all come crashing down at some point. It's only going to get worse

Re: Forest Service officials close all California national forests

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Post by op00to » Tue, Aug 31, 2021, 2:43 AM UTC

akira2501 wrote: post #11

jdavis703 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Biden manages national forests, Newsom had no say.

This always comes off as buck-shifting to me. Newsom is the governor of the 5th largest economy in the world, I'm sure there are many unconventional mechanisms available to him to get action on these things.

Get him action on what exactly?

Re: Forest Service officials close all California national forests

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Post by londons_explore » Tue, Aug 31, 2021, 2:43 AM UTC

Interesting times when a forest can be 'closed'.

Re: Forest Service officials close all California national forests

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Post by seanmcdirmid » Tue, Aug 31, 2021, 2:45 AM UTC

akira2501 wrote: post #11

jdavis703 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Biden manages national forests, Newsom had no say.

This always comes off as buck-shifting to me. Newsom is the governor of the 5th largest economy in the world, I'm sure there are many unconventional mechanisms available to him to get action on these things.

Much of the land in California, and throughout the west actually, is owned and managed by the federal government. State government doesn't have jurisdiction, they don't have funding, etc, to do much about that. The BLM isn't just an acronym used for Black Lives Matters (as wall as national forest land and national park land).

Re: Forest Service officials close all California national forests

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Post by larkinrichards » Tue, Aug 31, 2021, 2:46 AM UTC

Was planning to hike the JMT starting tomorrow from cottonwood meadow and ending on the 22nd. Permits canceled at 6pm tonight.

Anyone got recommendations for a last minute 20 day off grid vacation? Have car, supplies, ready to go.

Re: Forest Service officials close all California national forests

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Post by giantrobot » Tue, Aug 31, 2021, 2:46 AM UTC

akira2501 wrote: post #11

jdavis703 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Biden manages national forests, Newsom had no say.

This always comes off as buck-shifting to me. Newsom is the governor of the 5th largest economy in the world, I'm sure there are many unconventional mechanisms available to him to get action on these things.

National Forests are federal land owned and managed by the federal government. Why would you think the governor of any state would seize those forests? Even if California decided to force those forests to be open...they're being closed because of the extreme fire danger in many parks. Why in the world would the state want to open them up?

Fires don't care about property lines. A fire that starts in a National Forest will happily burn through an adjacent state forest or community.

Re: Forest Service officials close all California national forests

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Post by yurishimo » Tue, Aug 31, 2021, 2:47 AM UTC

larkinrichards wrote: post #16

Was planning to hike the JMT starting tomorrow from cottonwood meadow and ending on the 22nd. Permits canceled at 6pm tonight. Anyone got recommendations for a last minute 20 day off grid vacation? Have car, supplies, ready to go.

Drive east. I think a lot of Colorado is public? You’ve got the time!

Re: Forest Service officials close all California national forests

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Aug 31, 2021, 2:47 AM UTC

akira2501 wrote: post #11

jdavis703 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Biden manages national forests, Newsom had no say.

This always comes off as buck-shifting to me. Newsom is the governor of the 5th largest economy in the world, I'm sure there are many unconventional mechanisms available to him to get action on these things.

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Re: Forest Service officials close all California national forests

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Post by bglazer » Tue, Aug 31, 2021, 2:48 AM UTC

larkinrichards wrote: post #16

Was planning to hike the JMT starting tomorrow from cottonwood meadow and ending on the 22nd. Permits canceled at 6pm tonight. Anyone got recommendations for a last minute 20 day off grid vacation? Have car, supplies, ready to go.

Colorado trail? It would be quite the drive. Also probably a bit long for 20 days.