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Chocolat - the new editor

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Re: Chocolat - the new editor

#102

When will somebody produce a text editor built for remote editing of text files? The vast majority of programmers that I know do all of their work on a remote build-server, and thus are relegated to using emacs, vim or some extremely ungainly combination of TextMate+FtpServer/Remote Filesystem Mount. Could some intrepid developer create an app that would allow me to easily a) open and edit remote files b) open arbitr…

When? Oh, 20-odd years ago! Rob Pike's sam editor (http://sam.cat-v.org/) is architected as two components. One is the graphical front end that typically runs on your local machine, the other implements the actual editing functions and can be run remotely over a shell connection. You can open a huge list of files and perform complex editing operations on them without downloading all the content in to the graphical front end, because the front end only needs the parts of the files that you have displayed in open windows.

Re: Chocolat - the new editor

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post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, since TextMate 2 still hasn't come out yet, and this seems to appeal to a very similar aesthetic, I could see this taking over that market. I'm definitely very interested to try it out.

Don't lie— we're all gonna buy TextMate 2 anyway.

Yeah but the game here is about TextMate 3 vs. Chocolat 2

Re: Chocolat - the new editor

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post #25

I know I'm a graybeard, but I have yet to see a serious editor on any platform that could get me to switch away from Emacs. The perils of 20+ years of muscle memory and accumulated knowledge, I suppose.

My Emacs history only goes back 5 years.

A number of days ago, I downloaded Textmate and started playing with it. In the beginning I almost wanted to just delete it and go back to Emacs. But as time went on, its simplicity became increasingly pleasant; so last night, I purchased a license.

To me, it's good to know that innovation in text editing is not over. I don't think that Textmate is the last word by any means but it is a beautiful tool and I'm curious to see how Chocolat stacks up.

Re: Chocolat - the new editor

#105

When will somebody produce a text editor built for remote editing of text files? The vast majority of programmers that I know do all of their work on a remote build-server, and thus are relegated to using emacs, vim or some extremely ungainly combination of TextMate+FtpServer/Remote Filesystem Mount. Could some intrepid developer create an app that would allow me to easily a) open and edit remote files b) open arbitr…

Vim ships with this feature, it's in a plugin called netrw and enabled by default.

Also if you use any desktop linux system, the default text editor can probably open files on remote machines (with a wide variety of protocols), just enter the url. In Gnome it's called the Gnome virtual file system (GVFS).

Re: Chocolat - the new editor

#106
post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, since TextMate 2 still hasn't come out yet, and this seems to appeal to a very similar aesthetic, I could see this taking over that market. I'm definitely very interested to try it out.

Don't lie— we're all gonna buy TextMate 2 anyway.

TextMate 2 will be a free upgrade

Re: Chocolat - the new editor

#107
post #94

It seems to me that if you're producing a new product in as crowded a field as text editors, it's not very persuasive to, as these guys do, list a bunch of features, particularly if these are features that are common to most other text editors. The website needs a hook: what does this text editor do, that my current text editor doesn't? What's the high concept, the couple of sentence explanation of what makes this te…

This was exactly my thought. What exactly does this app have that Sublime Text 2 doesn't have?

Re: Chocolat - the new editor

#108

When will somebody produce a text editor built for remote editing of text files? The vast majority of programmers that I know do all of their work on a remote build-server, and thus are relegated to using emacs, vim or some extremely ungainly combination of TextMate+FtpServer/Remote Filesystem Mount. Could some intrepid developer create an app that would allow me to easily a) open and edit remote files b) open arbitr…

Emacs has Tramp, which gives you (a), and one of the emacs terminal modes can do (b) if you write the requisite script (which I estimate at two lines) and bind it to a key. You'll find these documented right next to C-x M-c M-butterfly. ;) Though in practice I find that (a) once you know emacs it's usually just as easy to shell into the remote machine and run emacs there, so I myself have yet to really get the hang o…

Tramp in Emacs is great. For restricted datacenter server farms, it's a godsend to use Tramp to get to any log files or config files on production machines.

What I usually did was to run Emacs on my dev machine, run multi-hop Tramp to get to any of the production servers via a gateway jumpbox. Tramp is able to do multiple ssh hops to get to the target machine, all behind the scene.

Bookmarking the remote files makes it really easy to get back to it.

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