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Photography technology has influenced what people consider a good picture

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Re: Photography technology has influenced what people consider a good picture

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What's good about these pictures? If you released them on Instagram on an anonymous account, nobody would give a shit.

There's nothing good about them. They have celebrities and are ostensibly about "fashion", but they don't otherwise have anything to recommend them.

Well they were decently lit and in focus...

Re: Photography technology has influenced what people consider a good picture

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post #11

Talking about what good and bad means in photography always reminds me of Miroslav Tichý, who said "if you want to be famous, you must do something more badly than anybody in the entire world", and took terrible but strangely brilliant photos with homemade cameras: https://flashbak.com/photographs-by-the-perverted-flaneur-mi... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miroslav_Tich%C3%BD

Well, I took a look, they are just bad photos to me. I could not find any redeeming quality.

Re: Photography technology has influenced what people consider a good picture

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It's hard to say. But I've been a fan of Juregen Teller for a while. He wants to break all the "rules" of fashion photography and photography in general. You're right, if you post these anonymously to IG, no one would bat an eye. But it's published in a prominent fashion magazine, it's taken by the famous Juregen Teller, it features celebrities posing in an unflattering way, they're wearing the latest designer clothe…

I didn't find the photos necessarily bad or easy to replicate at all. Taking pictures of people is intimate and challenging thing to do, especially if you don't know them well. I'm also not one to critique photos from a technical perspective, and tend to go by feel in my own and others photos.

I'm similar. Critiquing a photo from a technical perspective is the low-effort way to do it. Getting a technically good photo is probably the easiest thing to do.

When I was more serious into photography back in the day, getting a photo that can express what I wanted it to feel or the story I wanted to convey was much harder.

Re: Photography technology has influenced what people consider a good picture

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post #52
post #11

Talking about what good and bad means in photography always reminds me of Miroslav Tichý, who said "if you want to be famous, you must do something more badly than anybody in the entire world", and took terrible but strangely brilliant photos with homemade cameras: https://flashbak.com/photographs-by-the-perverted-flaneur-mi... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miroslav_Tich%C3%BD

Well, I took a look, they are just bad photos to me. I could not find any redeeming quality.

I'm curious, show an example of what you consider to be good photos, if you don't mind taking a moment.

Re: Photography technology has influenced what people consider a good picture

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post #37
post #9

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I took a self-portrait of... It's people not thinking through what they are saying and rather relying on stock phrases to relay information.

Maybe, but it’s way more likely that they mean “I took a picture of something with myself in the frame.” A selfie can really be any picture where you’re holding the camera and in the frame. The subject of the photo can be something other than you. “I took a selfie with…” means that I and the other thing are the subjects. “I took a selfie of…” means that the other thing is the subject I’m just in the picture.

No, I very often see people say things like "I took a selfie of my dog" and only the dog is in the picture.

Re: Photography technology has influenced what people consider a good picture

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post #11

Talking about what good and bad means in photography always reminds me of Miroslav Tichý, who said "if you want to be famous, you must do something more badly than anybody in the entire world", and took terrible but strangely brilliant photos with homemade cameras: https://flashbak.com/photographs-by-the-perverted-flaneur-mi... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miroslav_Tich%C3%BD

I think I've used that 'homemade camera' Instagram filter.

Re: Photography technology has influenced what people consider a good picture

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post #13

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Funny, without context (that I am unwilling to pursue atm, just skipped the whole article for the photos) they just look terrible pictures. Period.

Adding context does little to change that, unfortunately. I could understand if they evoked some kind of emotions or served as a deconstruction of photography technique, but most of them just look like deliberately bad photographs to me. Then again, I'm only an amateur at photography.

I'd guess they invoked nostalgia in other photographers at the time about their old bad photos, so they thought it was brilliant. Like an inside thing only they understood.

Re: Photography technology has influenced what people consider a good picture

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post #13

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Funny, without context (that I am unwilling to pursue atm, just skipped the whole article for the photos) they just look terrible pictures. Period.

It looks to me like the pictures may have been for his... uhh... own self-gratification.

Had that reaction too, and it's not just us :)

"Tichy was frequently arrested for hanging around the local pool and snapping pictures of unsuspecting women."

https://www.howardgreenberg.com/artists/miroslav-tich

Though he seems to have made quite a lot of effort in the handmade cameras and deliberate processing techniques.

Re: Photography technology has influenced what people consider a good picture

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post #52
post #11

Talking about what good and bad means in photography always reminds me of Miroslav Tichý, who said "if you want to be famous, you must do something more badly than anybody in the entire world", and took terrible but strangely brilliant photos with homemade cameras: https://flashbak.com/photographs-by-the-perverted-flaneur-mi... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miroslav_Tich%C3%BD

Well, I took a look, they are just bad photos to me. I could not find any redeeming quality.

From the wikipedia article: "...using homemade cameras constructed of cardboard tubes, tin cans and other at-hand materials"

I mean... I don't know if I'd take perfect pictures with such equipment, especially not if I'm trying to do it secretly.

Re: Photography technology has influenced what people consider a good picture

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But bromine, iodine, chlorine, and silver could not fix an even greater failing of early photographs, their impermanence Good pun.

I have to guess a little at what you mean. My guess is the word "fix", having only been tangentially involved with photography are these the chemicals that we now call "fixer"?
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