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The PineNote is an e-ink notebook that runs Linux

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Re: The PineNote is an e-ink notebook that runs Linux

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Especially: Write down your root password and DO NOT factory reset the device if you want to go back to the original state. If you follow these steps and you know a bit about linux you'll be fine. Factory reset on the rM2 will mess with the community framebuffer service and reset your root password, effectively locking you out unless you go the fiddly way over the external port. The rM1 is very resilient as you can d…

So they provide a factory reset feature, and what that feature does is brick your device? (Or nearly so.) Why do you say connecting over the external port is "finicky"?

I thought this means something else :D I wanted to say "fiddly", correcting it...

Re: The PineNote is an e-ink notebook that runs Linux

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My Remarkable 2 is the best note taking, writing, sketching device I've ever owned. I appreciate the competition in the space and hope it drives more innovation but I don't want to hack on my Remarkable tablet. I just want to write and sketch on it for the moment.

Totally agree. But I've got to the point where I'd like to start hacking on mine. I have a folder full of startup ideas. I really want a Lean Canvas page template to go with that (and be able to mix page types in a single notebook would be cool, but I'm not sure that's possible yet). I want to create a "meeting notes" type of notebook, that automatically adds today's date, and lives in a "meeting notes" folder organi…

Not sure if this is stock or provided by https://github.com/ddvk/remarkable-hacks but I can change the template per page.

Re: The PineNote is an e-ink notebook that runs Linux

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And still has zero actual videos of the device in action, which makes it really hard to get excited about it rather than cautiously apprehensive. $400 might be cheap compared to, say, a remarkable2, but not if the display turns out to be flat-out mediocre. Then that's $400 better spent on "saving up for a remarkable2".

> $400 might be cheap compared to, say, a remarkable2 A reMarkable 2 costs $399 brand new, so I'm not sure what you're on about.

I think a lot of people missed that only the early adopters batches will come with the pen and magnetic case included:

> We will be making the PineNote available for early adopters later this year for $399. The early adopter’s PineNote batch will ship with a magnetic cover (working with an on-board hall sensor, putting the device to sleep) as well as the EMR pen. Following the early adopter’s batch, both the cover and the pen will be sold separately.

The Remarkable 2 costs $547 USD with a pen and magnetic cover. So right now the PineNote is ~$150 cheaper, but once they start selling the accessories separately, I'm expecting it to be around $50-$100 cheaper than the R2. Still a good difference, but it's not as competitive price-wise as people think.

Edit: Not that price is all that matters, I'm super excited to have a proper Linux e-ink device!

Re: The PineNote is an e-ink notebook that runs Linux

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Does boot/ethernet/PCIe/wifi/USB work with a mainline kernel?

The board only became available last month, kernel source is still in a development tree.

Board is brand new, chipset is not though. Looks like most of what I need is already merged in 5.14!

Re: The PineNote is an e-ink notebook that runs Linux

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Remarkable 1 is recoverable without many tricks. Remarkable 2 requires a bit of parts and possibly soldering (but not required, just might make things easier if you don't have pogo pins with handles available). Both are fully recoverable unless you do something really impressive.

>Both are fully recoverable unless you do something really impressive. really impressive like what?

Physically breaking the hardware through software, for example. I believe there's some fun possible in most embedded designs like the one used in RM1/RM2. Like manipulating power management circuitry, or maybe forcing overheat with disabled throttling, and the like.

Re: The PineNote is an e-ink notebook that runs Linux

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Totally agree. But I've got to the point where I'd like to start hacking on mine. I have a folder full of startup ideas. I really want a Lean Canvas page template to go with that (and be able to mix page types in a single notebook would be cool, but I'm not sure that's possible yet). I want to create a "meeting notes" type of notebook, that automatically adds today's date, and lives in a "meeting notes" folder organi…

Not sure if this is stock or provided by https://github.com/ddvk/remarkable-hacks but I can change the template per page.

That is stock. It's in the page menu and I don't have any hacks installed.

Re: The PineNote is an e-ink notebook that runs Linux

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> However, the framebuffer driver has been extracted from the GUI service Extracted? Last time I look at it, they were inserting a patch in the main (and only) binary of the proprietary GUI via LD_PRELOAD, and then all other programs which wanted to draw _anything_ to the screen would basically _directly alter the memory_ of the proprietary GUI binary in order to modify its internal framebuffer. You have to do that w…

xochitl (the rM GUI) doesn't need to be run when other GUI programs are running. I don't fully understand the way this works but for anyone interested, here is the link for the framebuffer workaround: https://github.com/ddvk/remarkable2-framebuffer On rM1 it was possible to write to the framebuffer directly, on rM2 it is not exposed as a device file directly.

The link you are sharing explicitly mentions you need xochitl running with the LD_PRELOAD hack, which is what becomes "the framebuffer server". In fact,

> To do their job, both the client and the server need to know the address at which a number of functions reside in the Xochitl binary. These addresses change from one release to the next.

This is absurdly fragile. In fact, it's even worse than I was guessing :/.

Re: The PineNote is an e-ink notebook that runs Linux

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I was hoping for an affordable competitor to the Remarkable, but seems like it is just a competitor not necessarily affordable like a lot of the other Pine products. Not to say it won't be great or it is a bad thing, but had my hopes up when I saw the title. I cannot justify spending that amount for that type of product. Again not a knock as it is nice to see them get into this market just not what I thought when I o…

Well there are those Boox tablets, there's even a color one. But apparently the software does a lot of calling home to China.

Re: The PineNote is an e-ink notebook that runs Linux

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Will this have a OneNote client? That missing feature makes the remarkable a nonstarter for me and the fact they still don't seem interested in adding one baffles me. No I'm not interested in the "just email it to yourself" workflow. I want and need to be able to directly interact with OneNote.

If you're referring to the Microsoft product, OneNote's capabilities are... extensive. I highly doubt any company other than Microsoft has written full-featured clients for it.

The only option I see is getting an e-ink tablet that runs Android. Even then, I don't know if the pen will work.

Re: The PineNote is an e-ink notebook that runs Linux

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And still has zero actual videos of the device in action, which makes it really hard to get excited about it rather than cautiously apprehensive. $400 might be cheap compared to, say, a remarkable2, but not if the display turns out to be flat-out mediocre. Then that's $400 better spent on "saving up for a remarkable2".

> $400 might be cheap compared to, say, a remarkable2 A reMarkable 2 costs $399 brand new, so I'm not sure what you're on about.

Sure, and then you don't have a pen or a case. So that's not what it actually costs.
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