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In 2009, Two Nuclear Submarines Collided Under the Sea (2016)

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Re: In 2009, Two Nuclear Submarines Collided Under the Sea (2016)

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Are they really not detectable from space?

Using what technology? I can imagine in some future there being the means, but I find it hard to believe we have that level of tech available to the sort of packages we can aloft into orbit now.

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So the submarines can't use active sonar, because their number one priority is to avoid detection... but then these subs are all parked in the same "parking spots" in the ocean. If the favored parking spots for submarines are so rare and small that collisions happen more than once, surely that undermines their stated number one priority of remaining hidden? If someone wanted to locate enemy submarines, surely they could just send a bunch of underwater drones to swim through these parking spots?

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So the submarines can't use active sonar, because their number one priority is to avoid detection... but then these subs are all parked in the same "parking spots" in the ocean. If the favored parking spots for submarines are so rare and small that collisions happen more than once, surely that undermines their stated number one priority of remaining hidden? If someone wanted to locate enemy submarines, surely they co…

You don’t need drones. Planes and helicopters already drop sonar buoys for the exact reason you stated.

A better solution would be for an escort when they get into crowded lanes. Surface ships can use active sonar to scan for other subs while being some what close to their sub. The only problem is other listeners can pick up on what is reflecting off your active sonar as well. Also the subs try to avoid ever being detected because they can save your signature for comparison later.

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So the submarines can't use active sonar, because their number one priority is to avoid detection... but then these subs are all parked in the same "parking spots" in the ocean. If the favored parking spots for submarines are so rare and small that collisions happen more than once, surely that undermines their stated number one priority of remaining hidden? If someone wanted to locate enemy submarines, surely they co…

How are the drones going to detect them apart from randomly running into them? Simpler approach is for an adversary to just cruise attack boats through these areas, which you would want to do anyway since once you detect them you want to sink them in wartime.

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So the submarines can't use active sonar, because their number one priority is to avoid detection... but then these subs are all parked in the same "parking spots" in the ocean. If the favored parking spots for submarines are so rare and small that collisions happen more than once, surely that undermines their stated number one priority of remaining hidden? If someone wanted to locate enemy submarines, surely they co…

If the passive sonar filling the entire nose of a huge submarine can't hear another submarine, why would a much smaller sonar in the nose of a drone be able to detect a submarine?
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