The PineNote is an e-ink notebook that runs Linux
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The PineNote is an e-ink notebook that runs Linux
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Re: The PineNote is an e-ink notebook that runs Linux
#2It’s worth noting that this is a bit more powerful than Pine64’s other hardware releases, in part because it’s using the same base chipset as its Quartz64 SBC, released earlier this year: https://wiki.pine64.org/wiki/Quartz64
Re: The PineNote is an e-ink notebook that runs Linux
#3Calling it a notebook is a bit of a stretch. It doesn't take notes.
If you’re looking to buy a PineNote in the first batch, you must expect to write software for it, not to write notes on it. The software shipping from the factory for the first batch will not be suitable for taking notes, reading e-books, or writing your dissertation [...]
Edit: It looks like tuxphones is the one calling it a notebook. Pine 64 never calls it a notebook on their site. It's named PineNote, but it's marketed as an "e-ink device" that may be a non-functional prototype on delivery. From their press release: It may not even boot to a graphical environment.
Re: The PineNote is an e-ink notebook that runs Linux
#4Is the input lag in par with other e-ink notebooks?
Re: The PineNote is an e-ink notebook that runs Linux
#5Calling it a notebook is a bit of a stretch. It doesn't take notes. If you’re looking to buy a PineNote in the first batch, you must expect to write software for it, not to write notes on it. The software shipping from the factory for the first batch will not be suitable for taking notes, reading e-books, or writing your dissertation [...] Edit: It looks like tuxphones is the one calling it a notebook. Pine 64 never…
Don’t take any notes, yet.
This is pretty much how all Pine devices ship, and they’re up front about it. They’ve always been very explicitly that the Pine devices aren’t meant to be fully formed consumer devices and that it’ll take quite a bit of elbow grease and community effort to make the most out of the hardware.
Re: The PineNote is an e-ink notebook that runs Linux
#6Let me just say that the Remarkable also runs linux.
Not only that, but I've been blown away by the ongoing results from the team at Remarkable. I only have the Remarkable 1 but they continue to ship updates for it, and these updates are often really substantive with sometimes profound new features. Their cloud service is free, no aggravating subscription stuff and even though they have the remarkable 2 now, they continue to kill it with the updates to improve my experience with the remarkable 1. They, as of right now, have my undying loyalty and appear to be a truly customer focused company. I'd love to buy their entire team a couple beers.
Don't get me wrong, I love pine64 too, but they're way more oriented to us hacker types than ordinary people and I don't want to have to hack together a functioning device with everything I own, though I think they're doong good work none-the-less.
Re: The PineNote is an e-ink notebook that runs Linux
#7Related discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28190756
Re: The PineNote is an e-ink notebook that runs Linux
#8Calling it a notebook is a bit of a stretch. It doesn't take notes. If you’re looking to buy a PineNote in the first batch, you must expect to write software for it, not to write notes on it. The software shipping from the factory for the first batch will not be suitable for taking notes, reading e-books, or writing your dissertation [...] Edit: It looks like tuxphones is the one calling it a notebook. Pine 64 never…
Don’t take any notes, yet. This is pretty much how all Pine devices ship, and they’re up front about it. They’ve always been very explicitly that the Pine devices aren’t meant to be fully formed consumer devices and that it’ll take quite a bit of elbow grease and community effort to make the most out of the hardware.
Not everyone follows Pine devices closely. I was quite surprised to see someone announce a device and call it a notebook, when it lacks the all of the software that defines the category.
Re: The PineNote is an e-ink notebook that runs Linux
#9It’s worth noting that this is a bit more powerful than Pine64’s other hardware releases, in part because it’s using the same base chipset as its Quartz64 SBC, released earlier this year: https://wiki.pine64.org/wiki/Quartz64
Does boot/ethernet/PCIe/wifi/USB work with a mainline kernel?
Re: The PineNote is an e-ink notebook that runs Linux
#10Is the input lag in par with other e-ink notebooks?
When the project was initially announced, Pine was claiming a 60Hz refresh rate, which sounded amazing but is essentially impossible for e-ink at full dynamic range. They've since clarified this:
>Edit August 16 00:09 UTC: A previous version of this post listed the e-ink panel’s refresh rate at 60Hz. This number requires much more context. It takes multiple frames to display most images on an e-ink panel. The visual performance of the panel also depends on the method of converting the screen image to data the panel understands. We will be unable to make estimates of the panel’s true performance in frames per second without much more testing and development. So we’ve removed the 60Hz figure for now. We apologize for any misunderstanding.
Realistically, the best you can do with e-ink is 1-bit with ~120ms refresh (just over 8 frames per second). If you want shades of grey it slows considerably. Dasung and now Boox Mira both support alternative modes that compromise on dynamic range, number of shades of grey, and amount of ghosting to be able to display video somewhat adequately.