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Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

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Post by smallerfish »

roothog wrote: post #248
smallerfish wrote: post #158

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I use it all the time - it's the killer feature of google photos. The premise is that if you come back from vacation with 300 photos, it's unlikely that you (the average non photography-nerd user) are going to sit there and tag them all. If in a few years you want to find "that photo of me you took on the beach in north carolina", with a quick search you can. There are annoying limitations though, probably because th…

> there's no direct way to click to January 2015 from the results, which really sucks. (Instead you have to go back out of results and use their fiddly scroll to get there.) It's amusing how people's insights can turn myopic. Search in photos is the killer feature, and it even solves the problem that you have. If you realize that you need to see photos from January 2015, don't try to scroll back in your photos feed.…

That's worse than click-to-this-photo-in-context though. Maybe I have 4000 photos from January 2015, so it doesn't help to search for the month.

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

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Post by vages »

iknowstuff wrote: post #246

I tried it, but unfortunately the complete lack of auto-categorization in all of those e2ee photo storage apps renders them unusable for anyone with a large library. Ente is not the first one to do this, there are many others with similarly lacking UX, like MEGA. Both Apple Photos and Google Photos: 1. have easy search by location on a map of the world. 2. allow browsing to any date in an instant. 3. index photos by…

All the features you mention are already addressed in the original post as planned future developments. Knowing that they are planned makes me put my trust more in Ente than in Mega (which I use as an alternative to Dropbox and am very satisfied with). Not that there’s anything wrong with confirming interest in their planned features; I’m just pointing Ente’s plans out for anyone who scrolls right to the comments.

As for possible bankruptcy, you can never be too certain, but it’s easier to stay in business with Indian costs of living than US. (The company is located in India.)

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Post by mixmastamyk »

meibo wrote: post #81

I don't think I'm ready to invest in a photo hosting solution again, be it with my time, my money, or my data, without it being open source/self-hostable or at least open core with a community behind it. Been duped too many times.

Curious about the details of how you were duped.

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Post by istingray »

Thank you! As someone who as of a week ago is hardcore switching from Apple to Linux, I applaud you. I've purchased a 16" MBP, both Airpod models, iPhone, and iPad in the last 24 months. Now on to System76!

Whatever the past is, I believe there's a new market in 2021 for Apple-switchers that will unleash new funds for companies like yours. De-Google movement will pale in comparison to this in terms of economics. Looking into signing up just on principle. Non-E2EE encrypted, closed source, without ability to self host is a dead end, why put a penny more towards it. Open source options may suck today but it's the only path forward. Thank you for what you do - whether your company succeeds or simply inspires 1,000 new companies in its place.

What are your plans for Linux support? Your site only mentions Android and iOS, I see electron mentioned, but again I'm one of these Apple switchers, I have no idea what I'm doing really but I'm willing to pay for solutions.

Take my money!!!

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Post by Jcowell »

sillysaurusx wrote: post #205
Jcowell wrote: post #187

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Why would this feature , that is also apart of Photos, make you reconsider ?

As much as I like apple / iCloud / my iPhone, I do like the idea of seeing all the places on a map that I’ve traveled with my lovely wife Emily. We’re hoping to go to the Seychelles if the next three months work out at my contract gig. I like the idea of being able to type “water” and see a bunch of water bottles mixed in with all the water-y places we’ve visited. What sealed the deal was to see it on a map. I typed…

Yes but I’m saying that’s a feature in Photos right now. So long as the photo has location data , you can see it on the Map in Places on the albums tab.

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Post by egberts1 »

vishnumohandas wrote: post #254
yawaworht1978 wrote: post #225

Is this encrypted at rest as well? Can you recover the data in case of a loss without seeing the data? Good project, really well done, browsing the GitHub a bit.

Thanks! The data is encrypted once it leaves your device. Not sure what you mean by a data "loss" here. If it's about the customer losing access to their password, as long as they have access to their recoveryKey, they will be able to sign in and change their password. If it's about something else, please let me know.

Ummmm, data at rest is to mean that the photo remains encrypted on the server's hard drive after power off.

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Post by missedthecue »

the_biot wrote: post #224
missedthecue wrote: post #148

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What about Google photos is evil? I don't get it.

The other day I sent out a link made with Google Photos' "create link" function. That's not a share to another user, just a link that anyone can open, no Google account required. But one person showed me that hitting that link on her phone, Google wanted to authenticate her before showing the picture. That is utterly unacceptable.

This sounds like mild inconvenience.

What's evil about that?

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Post by novok »

How would you compare yourself to Mylio? Mylio is closed sourced & a $10/month subscription, but doesn't have a cloud component to it, so you can have unlimited amounts of photos. You have to manage your desktop computers yourself although. It also lets you store photos E2E encrypted on onedrive, amazon drive and google drive.

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Post by missedthecue »

SXX wrote: post #202
missedthecue wrote: post #148

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What about Google photos is evil? I don't get it.

Okay it's easy to downvote, but I'll elaborate instead. First of all Google is trainihg AI models on your data and also able to create shadow profiles for people including those who decide against using Google services. They also used dark pattern on Android for years by enabling cloud sync by default for everything. So a lot of people got all their photos uploaded while they had no idea about feature. So it's not an…

I don't really get what's evil about AI models and cloud sync.

And I don't think anything is wrong about Facebook's business model. I think most people are uninformed about it and believe that they sell personal data, but if you understand the way they make money, it's very difficult to say that there is any particular issue with it.

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