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Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

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Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

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Post by alisonkisk »

LightG wrote: post #35
benbristow wrote: post #23

Your homepage says "protect your photos/faces etc. from algorithms" The algorithms are what makes Google Photos; Google Photos. If I wanted to just store my photos I'd throw them in a S3 bucket or Dropbox or something. Google Photos lets me automatically categorise my photos by person, lets me search my library using text search for anything (e.g. I can search 'museum' and see pictures I've taken in museums). That is…

You're willing to pay the price of those algorithms and the Google ecosystem. Others are not. I'm excited to review this project. Thanks to the creators. This has come at a perfect moment ... as, this weekend, I'm literally downloading my entire Google photos archive (one year at a time) to my local harddrive and figuring out a way forward. I'm done with Google after a 'straw breaking the camels back' moment with the…

Why not use Takeout to download all at once?

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

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Post by mfer »

benbristow wrote: post #23

Your homepage says "protect your photos/faces etc. from algorithms" The algorithms are what makes Google Photos; Google Photos. If I wanted to just store my photos I'd throw them in a S3 bucket or Dropbox or something. Google Photos lets me automatically categorise my photos by person, lets me search my library using text search for anything (e.g. I can search 'museum' and see pictures I've taken in museums). That is…

To think that someone can just throw their photos in s3 assumes people are ops, devils, or devs. That’s a small slice of the population. What about everyone else?

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

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Post by vishnumohandas »

sysadm1n wrote: post #99

What happens if I buy the yearly plan, fill my account with photos, then don't renew my subscription? Can I still access my photos even when downgraded to a free account?

No, storage and bandwidth are quite expensive. We will purge your data from our systems 2 months after your subscription expires.

You will have an easy way to download all of your data, and we will notify you multiple times to do so before the deletion actually happens.

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

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Post by commoner »

user-the-name wrote: post #62
mynameismon wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://ente.io/transparency/

That's just a non-binding promise. If that's enough for you, you don't need encryption at all.

I think the correct link is: https://ente.io/architecture

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

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Post by dane-pgp »

vishnumohandas wrote: post #101
sneak wrote: post #40

Why does this app need to link my identifiers and contact info to my identity? I would feel a lot more comfortable with this if it didn't collect any data of mine, and you were just storing ciphertext. I don't want an account, and I don't want to give you my name or email.

Hey, we do need some information to get the product to work well. You can see the bits of information we collect, along with the reasoning here: https://ente.io/privacy/#account-data

> Browser type and operating system of the devices from which you have logged in to ente to ensure account security.

I can't imagine how that information could be used to stop an attack that otherwise would succeed. Is this just so that you can say "Your last login was from Safari on an iPhone" to the user to reassure them their password hasn't been stolen (or the attacker has correctly guessed the most popular browser on the most popular platform)?

If so, this seems like a string that could be generated client-side, and stored encrypted on your server, so that you never have to log this data in plaintext.

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

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Post by hawaiianbrah »

sillysaurusx wrote: post #103
benbristow wrote: post #23

Your homepage says "protect your photos/faces etc. from algorithms" The algorithms are what makes Google Photos; Google Photos. If I wanted to just store my photos I'd throw them in a S3 bucket or Dropbox or something. Google Photos lets me automatically categorise my photos by person, lets me search my library using text search for anything (e.g. I can search 'museum' and see pictures I've taken in museums). That is…

Am I the only one who never realized you can search "museum" and see your museum photos? Now that you've mentioned it, yes, I'd like to try that. But as a counterpoint to your argument, I've never needed it, and I suspect that a lot of people may not actually be getting the same value propositions that you're getting. On the other hand, Google Photos is Google Photos. But it's often a mistake to compete directly with…

The search is really quite fun to play with, and very useful! I also like searching on the map and seeing where I’ve taken photos. Especially if I’m looking for one particular photo, it’s fun to zoom in from the world map

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

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Post by benbristow »

mfer wrote: post #112
benbristow wrote: post #23

Your homepage says "protect your photos/faces etc. from algorithms" The algorithms are what makes Google Photos; Google Photos. If I wanted to just store my photos I'd throw them in a S3 bucket or Dropbox or something. Google Photos lets me automatically categorise my photos by person, lets me search my library using text search for anything (e.g. I can search 'museum' and see pictures I've taken in museums). That is…

To think that someone can just throw their photos in s3 assumes people are ops, devils, or devs. That’s a small slice of the population. What about everyone else?

I also mention Dropbox. I haven't used it for a while though
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