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Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

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Yes, and that is a problem .

What is the problem/why is there a problem?

When push comes to shove, technology is subservient to society: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavabit

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

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How do you know it's zero knowledge?

https://ente.io/transparency/

That's just a non-binding promise. If that's enough for you, you don't need encryption at all.

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

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Looks great, but based on my limited time with it: - when registering via the Android application I got no 1Password prompt to fill in the fields; this is usually the case with other applications - there doesn't seem to be an option to back-up single photos, only whole directories; why is this?

Hey, sorry that the 1Password prompt did now pop up. We'll look into this.

Regarding the lack of option for backing up individual files, currently that option exists only on iOS since the OS provides users with an option to grant permission to a few files instead of their entire gallery.

There are two ways to work around this on Android right now:

1. Share a file from outside the app to ente.

2. Skip the folder selection, choose the file you want to backup from your device folder, and add it to an album (you will be prompted to create an album if none exist).

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

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Kudos on your launch! I just had a question: the pricing plans seem slightly pricey, is it to break even before bringing prices down, or is it due to expensive storage? If the latter, is there a self-hosted option? Also, the website looks absolutely great!

ELI5 what does self hosting option mean here in this context?

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

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Yes, and that is a problem .

What is the problem/why is there a problem?

Well, first and foremost, if I ran a service, I would not want to help either terrorists or pedophiles. I would be very unhappy if I was doing that.

Secondly, if you do provide service to terrorists or pedophiles, and take no steps to stop doing so, law enforcement and society in general is not going to be very happy with you.

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

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post #45

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How do you know it's zero knowledge?

The source code of the client-side apps appears to be available on GitHub. So if they're bluffing, it won't be too long until someone calls them out on it.

Without a fully described mechanism to confirm that the client you download is not compiled with additional code (i.e. without specifying exactly how the client is compiled, using which version of which compiler, and which compile flags, dependency versions, etc) any kind of "the code seems to be on github" is kind of meaningless.

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

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This is looks super cool, however not something I'd be interested in using myself if I can't selfhost it (at least it looks like thats not possible from the website).

Self-hosting a zero knowledge service is probably unnecessary. If you're hosting the service, there's no need for data to be encrypted client-side. Unless, of course, you were intending on running the service on a public cloud which you didn't control, but that's something I don't think many privacy conscious folk would do. There's plenty of open source, self-hosted alternatives to Google Photos.

To me it is a canary signal that I have the option to self-host.

Most likely, QoS would be better from ente's hosting and I would be inclined to take advantage of that. An open source server can be audited and offer an off-ramp should their service no longer suit me.

Then again, the economics of enabling self-hosted infrastructure are probably less exciting compared to locking users in to marked-up, white-labeled infrastructure.

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

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Your homepage says "protect your photos/faces etc. from algorithms" The algorithms are what makes Google Photos; Google Photos. If I wanted to just store my photos I'd throw them in a S3 bucket or Dropbox or something. Google Photos lets me automatically categorise my photos by person, lets me search my library using text search for anything (e.g. I can search 'museum' and see pictures I've taken in museums). That is…

> So you're going to implement algorithms then?

Yes, we will implement the algorithms, purely on the client side, such that we don't hold indexes to your personal data.

But I understand how that piece of text could have thrown you off, I'll think of ways to rephrase it. Thanks for pointing it out.

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

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Sidenote: are you aware that "Ente" is German for "duck"? :)

If I recall correctly "ente" has a pleasant meaning in Portuguese. Google Translate says it means "loved" but I feel like my paperback dictionary said something else... Edit: I think it's similar to "being"

Since OP seems to be from Kerala it might be in Malayalam."ente" in Malayalam(Language of Kerala) means "mine".
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