Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

news.ycombinator.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

21–30 of 421 posts

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

#21

Post by mynameismon »

ridaj wrote: post #13

What are your plans for when your app is found to host content such as terrorist executions, child porn, etc.? (This isn't trolling, it's something that eventually happens with every product, and I've been wanting a non-Google version myself but wondering how that kind of abuse would be dealt with.)

I don't think they would be able to do anything about it, since (from what I could infer from reading) it is zero-knowledge, so no one from the company can access the pictures. I might be wrong, though

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

#22

Post by lol1lol »

ridaj wrote: post #13

What are your plans for when your app is found to host content such as terrorist executions, child porn, etc.? (This isn't trolling, it's something that eventually happens with every product, and I've been wanting a non-Google version myself but wondering how that kind of abuse would be dealt with.)

something that only showed up in mainstream media 10 years after smart phones got launched. gawd.

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

#23

Post by benbristow »

Your homepage says "protect your photos/faces etc. from algorithms"

The algorithms are what makes Google Photos; Google Photos. If I wanted to just store my photos I'd throw them in a S3 bucket or Dropbox or something.

Google Photos lets me automatically categorise my photos by person, lets me search my library using text search for anything (e.g. I can search 'museum' and see pictures I've taken in museums). That is where the real value of Google Photos comes into play.

> But we are far from where we want to be in terms of features (object and face detection, location clustering, image filters, ...) and user experience. We are hoping to use this post as an opportunity to collect feedback from fellow hackers.

So you're going to implement algorithms then?

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

#24

Post by claudiojulio »

ridaj wrote: post #13

What are your plans for when your app is found to host content such as terrorist executions, child porn, etc.? (This isn't trolling, it's something that eventually happens with every product, and I've been wanting a non-Google version myself but wondering how that kind of abuse would be dealt with.)

It is not possible to prove this, because the photos are encrypted.

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

#25

Post by abhinavDev »

llIIllIIllIIl wrote: post #14

Awesome work. Although the price is 5x of google’s, the privacy is worth it. Is there a family plan? We currently have 200gb google photos plan with my wife, but to migrate we have to take 1000gb plan (which we fill maybe in 8 years at current pace of adding content). Maybe something in between 100gb and 1000gb would find it’s audience.

Yes, we have both a 100GB and a 1000GB plans, you can check them on https://ente.io/#pricing

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

#26

Post by andrewmunsell »

lol1lol wrote: post #9
explodingcamera wrote: post #8

This is looks super cool, however not something I'd be interested in using myself if I can't selfhost it (at least it looks like thats not possible from the website).

self hosting is not worth the time and effort.

That is not categorically true.

On the business side, there's plenty of companies that have offered and succeeded with self-hosted software. On the client side, there's many individuals like myself willing to dedicate time, money, and effort to self-host services. I spent quite a bit of time setting up my NAS with self-hosted services, not only because the number of photos and media I store would be prohibitively expensive to host elsewhere (I do photography and videography as a hobby, 120 fps 10 bit footage adds up), but because I enjoy the hobby.

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

#27

Post by usrme »

Looks great, but based on my limited time with it:

- when registering via the Android application I got no 1Password prompt to fill in the fields; this is usually the case with other applications - there doesn't seem to be an option to back-up single photos, only whole directories; why is this?

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

#29

Post by lol1lol »

andrewmunsell wrote: post #26
lol1lol wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

self hosting is not worth the time and effort.

That is not categorically true. On the business side, there's plenty of companies that have offered and succeeded with self-hosted software. On the client side, there's many individuals like myself willing to dedicate time, money, and effort to self-host services. I spent quite a bit of time setting up my NAS with self-hosted services, not only because the number of photos and media I store would be prohibitively exp…

we have so many consumer facing apps. you'd want to maintain all those and actually have a life to use those? good luck!

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

#30

Post by YPPH »

explodingcamera wrote: post #8

This is looks super cool, however not something I'd be interested in using myself if I can't selfhost it (at least it looks like thats not possible from the website).

Self-hosting a zero knowledge service is probably unnecessary.

If you're hosting the service, there's no need for data to be encrypted client-side. Unless, of course, you were intending on running the service on a public cloud which you didn't control, but that's something I don't think many privacy conscious folk would do.

There's plenty of open source, self-hosted alternatives to Google Photos.

Post reply on HN