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From what I understand excess consumption causes increase in blood pressure and subsequent cardiovascular problems. Definitely nowhere near as dangerous as sugar, and you die without salt, not so with sugar, but Americans do consume too much of it.
It has this effect only on roughly a quarter of the population though.
Interesting point in video posted recently by Veritasium: Basically, they are doing experiments to track evolution in "realtime" of some organisms. During the conversation the guy mentions that the population growth of their organisms are controlled by adding or removing glucose for them to consume - basically as long as glucose is available, there will be growth. (First 5 minutes of video)
This is really not my field at all, but I found it interesting that sugar has that great an effect on growth. Considering how much sugar most humans eat, considering the gross amount of other organisms in our bodies.. there must be some kind of measurable effect on our microbiome by eating more sugars (or things that use glucose). What if sugar is ~the~ culprit for many diseases (cancer anyone?)?
I'm not anti-sugar, just speculating. Criticism welcome, am I on the right path to think this way?
(Speculation ahead!) Interesting point in video posted recently by Veritasium: Basically, they are doing experiments to track evolution in "realtime" of some organisms. During the conversation the guy mentions that the population growth of their organisms are controlled by adding or removing glucose for them to consume - basically as long as glucose is available, there will be growth. (First 5 minutes of video) This…
The nice thing about reducing sugar is that after a while your taste buds realize how insanely over-sweetened many products are in the US. My current favorite example is bottled teas. When I was a kid I remember drinking Snapple, now I can't understand how I ever downed that stuff, it's like drinking syrup. If I'm lazy I'll get a bottle of unsweetened tea and mix it about 4-1 with sweetened tea. I get something that…
In my early 20s, my then boss one afternoon suggested I just try cutting nearly all sugary stuff out of my diet, as I was having issues with low energy during the day. It took a couple weeks for my metabolism to adjust, but holy cow what a difference. I've stuck with a diet low on simple sugars ever since.
While I'm sure what some posters are saying about age related sweetness sensitivity is true, what the above poster is talking about is very real, very acute, and very obvious. Likewise, the taste of less sweet things changes dramatically as well. I drank a lot of diet coke for a while during the transition. I remember what it tasted like back when I drank sugared stuff all the time, and I found it disgusting. Now it tastes very sweet. It's also a texture thing: sugared soda feels like syrup in my mouth now.
Overall this is probably the most positive health related decision I've made in life. I still have the occasional bowl of ice cream or such as a treat, but it's like a once a month thing now, if that. Beer is really the last sugar laden thing I have with some regularity. I'd never go back to where I was.
I’ve been LCHF-ing for last two months. My weight steadily goes down half a kilo a week. Except for that one week during which i consumed half a kilo of Philadelphia cheese
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"to make it so fat people and sedentary people can start paying their fair way" You can make people pay for added sugar in the food but not for them being fat. That is discriminating. BTW you don't know if a fat person is in bad or good health based on her/his overall shape.
> BTW you don't know if a fat person is in bad or good health based on her/his overall shape If you are obese or overweight you are, by definition, not healthy.
To rephrase the sibling: if you are obese or overweight, you have, by definition, a certain BMI. (According to the WHO and many national entities, anyway.) The intended common-sense definition of obesity is "accumulation of fat to an unhealthy level", but the diagnosis of obesity is usually based on a statistic which merely correlates with that.
Similarly, to declare that someone is in bad or good health based on their overall shape is to do the same thing: to diagnose someone as having medical problems by observing that they demonstrate a property which often correlates with medical problems.
The sleight of hand is that you're defending a position based on a "diagnosis by correlating statistic" definition of obesity, but you're using the intended definition of obesity ("enough fat that you're unhealthy") to do the actual argument, and relying on the fact that both are referred to by the same name ("obesity") to hide the gap.
I usually keep to a low carb diet. Recently I had a burger from a local burger joint bun included. The entire time I’m eating this burger I keep thinking this is the best damn burger I’ve had in forever. I chalk it up to being hungry. At the end of the burger I had bite of bun left that was bare of toppings. I ate it and realized this white bread bun is so sweet it tastes more like cake than bread… no wonder I though…
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What do you think oil is? It's processed food. And I never said you have to get rid of it entirely. But there's no doubt we use too much of it. Why is that controversial? And there is too much consensus around saturated fat being involved in both cardiovascular disease and diabetes for me to say animal fats are a good substitute. It's a step in the wrong direction, even. The only thing worse might be palm oil.
I found both your and GP's comment very interesting. The one thing that drives me crazy about nutrition is that everyone is literally saying exact opposite things. It makes it impossible to know what is actually right. It's crazy to me how little we actually seem to know about nutrition. I don't get the same feeling from other areas of study. Most physicists seem to agree on pretty much everything besides the super n…
Part of the problem with nutrition is it's hard to get quality data, like how do you get long-term studies where you can control every aspect of each participant's diet and lifestyle? The best data we have is all over relatively short periods.
Saturated fat is one thing there is strong consensus on.
https://www.heart.org/en/healthy-living/healthy-eating/eat-s...
https://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/41/8/1732
I'll point out that regarding "healthy" fats, what you see in most recommendations is that replacing unhealthy fats with healthy fats improves heart health, not that adding healthy fats improves heart health.
Eating less meat helps, too.
https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/110/1/24/5494812
(surprisingly, in this particular study, white meat was about as bad as red meat)
The nice thing about reducing sugar is that after a while your taste buds realize how insanely over-sweetened many products are in the US. My current favorite example is bottled teas. When I was a kid I remember drinking Snapple, now I can't understand how I ever downed that stuff, it's like drinking syrup. If I'm lazy I'll get a bottle of unsweetened tea and mix it about 4-1 with sweetened tea. I get something that…
Boy is this the truth. I grew up on a very sugar heavy diet. My whole family would sip on quart tumblers of soda more or less continuously throughout the day. I took that into adult hood with a habit to constantly drink cans of coke. In my early 20s, my then boss one afternoon suggested I just try cutting nearly all sugary stuff out of my diet, as I was having issues with low energy during the day. It took a couple w…