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Re: Reducing sugar in packaged foods can prevent disease in millions

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Post by wombatmobile »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #9

The nice thing about reducing sugar is that after a while your taste buds realize how insanely over-sweetened many products are in the US. My current favorite example is bottled teas. When I was a kid I remember drinking Snapple, now I can't understand how I ever downed that stuff, it's like drinking syrup. If I'm lazy I'll get a bottle of unsweetened tea and mix it about 4-1 with sweetened tea. I get something that…

Same with salt [0].

After 6 weeks of abstinence, your salt sensation is recalibrated downwards.

[0]. https://www.amazon.com/Salt-Sugar-Fat-Giants-Hooked/dp/08129...

Re: Reducing sugar in packaged foods can prevent disease in millions

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Post by wombatmobile »

Michael Moss conducted a remarkable research effort into the food industry during which he gained access to food scientists and executives from the largest food corporations.

He presents what he learned in his 2013 book Salt Sugar Fat.

Sugar is not just in candy, cake, and soda. It's in virtually all processed food. Anything sold in a supermarket in a box, bottle, can, jar, or packet, is likely to have sugar added up the the "bliss point". That's an empirically derived level at which the cravability and addictability of the product is maximised.

SuperSummary

https://www.supersummary.com/salt-sugar-fat/summary/

Navigating the Supermarket Aisles With Michael Pollan and Michael Moss | The New York Times

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATAZrRfebiw

Re: Reducing sugar in packaged foods can prevent disease in millions

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Post by wombatmobile »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #9

The nice thing about reducing sugar is that after a while your taste buds realize how insanely over-sweetened many products are in the US. My current favorite example is bottled teas. When I was a kid I remember drinking Snapple, now I can't understand how I ever downed that stuff, it's like drinking syrup. If I'm lazy I'll get a bottle of unsweetened tea and mix it about 4-1 with sweetened tea. I get something that…

> The nice thing about reducing sugar is ...

... that your endless cycles of great hunger, binging, then hunger again an hour later end. Instead, when you eat fresh food, you have constant energy and a feeling of satiety that lasts. It frees your mind to concentrate on work or pleasure without distraction.

Re: Reducing sugar in packaged foods can prevent disease in millions

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Post by wombatmobile »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #9

The nice thing about reducing sugar is that after a while your taste buds realize how insanely over-sweetened many products are in the US. My current favorite example is bottled teas. When I was a kid I remember drinking Snapple, now I can't understand how I ever downed that stuff, it's like drinking syrup. If I'm lazy I'll get a bottle of unsweetened tea and mix it about 4-1 with sweetened tea. I get something that…

> The nice thing about reducing sugar is...

... that you soon start dropping lots of weight. If you keep off the sugar, the pounds stay off.

Re: Reducing sugar in packaged foods can prevent disease in millions

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Post by fortran77 »

lkuty wrote: post #84
sjwalter wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IMO this is attacking it from the wrong angle. What I want is a change to insurance industry regulations to make it so fat people and sedentary people can start paying their fair way and not be subsidized by those of us who maintain their health. Could be done a number of ways. Life insurance already sometimes requires a physical at signup. Why not for health insurance too? Could also just be a discount. Could even,…

"to make it so fat people and sedentary people can start paying their fair way" You can make people pay for added sugar in the food but not for them being fat. That is discriminating. BTW you don't know if a fat person is in bad or good health based on her/his overall shape.

> BTW you don't know if a fat person is in bad or good health based on her/his overall shape

If you are obese or overweight you are, by definition, not healthy.

Re: Reducing sugar in packaged foods can prevent disease in millions

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Post by gHosts »

I want to start a Truth in Packaging campaign.

Mint Sauce? Nah. That mint flavoured sugar water.

Cheese is a Good Source of Protein? Nah. Bollocks, it's clearly a better source of fat.

I could go on for ages.

I'm truly glad I don't live in America... The amount of sugar in NZ food is frightening and I have to spend ages label reading to avoid the worst of it....

....but the amount of HFCS in American food is just plain stark crazy.

Re: Reducing sugar in packaged foods can prevent disease in millions

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Post by gHosts »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #9

The nice thing about reducing sugar is that after a while your taste buds realize how insanely over-sweetened many products are in the US. My current favorite example is bottled teas. When I was a kid I remember drinking Snapple, now I can't understand how I ever downed that stuff, it's like drinking syrup. If I'm lazy I'll get a bottle of unsweetened tea and mix it about 4-1 with sweetened tea. I get something that…

The sugar aisle smells like a gas station to me now.

Re: Reducing sugar in packaged foods can prevent disease in millions

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Post by caturopath »

crdrost wrote: post #88
caturopath wrote: post #36

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I'm pretty sure most of the "artificial sweeteners are evil" stuff is just moral panic to how they seem like cheating. It seems so unbelievable that any of them are especially bad for you or your habits, especially when compared to sugar.

It's bigger than that. So first off, just about all of these artificial sweeteners are like 200x sweeter than sugar or higher. This kind of means that you have high amplification which comes with distortion—artificial sweeteners do not taste like the real thing. So those chemical aftertastes are probably the biggest contributors to skepticism. Second, the most common artificial sweetener right now is aspartame, and i…

'Formaldehyde' fearmongering addressed at (sorry) https://youtu.be/92r1oOul0kM?t=69

Re: Reducing sugar in packaged foods can prevent disease in millions

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Post by yellow_lead »

sjf wrote: post #57
yellow_lead wrote: post #4

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Well, they also taste pretty bad to some people.

I am one of those people. If even sip something with stevia in it I am going to be trying to get the taste out of mouth for hours. It makes me want to scrap my tongue off. It was truly the worst thing I have ever consumed. It has only happened a couple of times, now I am literally traumatized and check the ingredients on anything that is likely to have it. For context, I am not a picky eater, there are things I don't…

It's pretty gross IMO too. Especially in carbonated waters or seltzers.

Re: Reducing sugar in packaged foods can prevent disease in millions

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Post by chithanh »

ksaj wrote: post #52
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #9

The nice thing about reducing sugar is that after a while your taste buds realize how insanely over-sweetened many products are in the US. My current favorite example is bottled teas. When I was a kid I remember drinking Snapple, now I can't understand how I ever downed that stuff, it's like drinking syrup. If I'm lazy I'll get a bottle of unsweetened tea and mix it about 4-1 with sweetened tea. I get something that…

As a Canadian, may I offer you a double double? I love coffee. Not Timmie's -- good proper coffee. And I only ever add a dash of milk and about 1/4 tsp of sugar. The rationale behind making a weak cup of coffee sweeter than the accompanying donut has never made sense to me. It's so hard to drink like that. I'm clearly outnumbered by people who are used to taking in that much sugar with every syrupy mouthful.

People typically mask the sour/bitter taste of not well prepared coffee with milk and sugar to make it more palatable.

Good coffee you can drink black.

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