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Rivian Files for IPO, Seeking About $80B Valuation

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Re: Rivian Files for IPO, Seeking About $80B Valuation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ford has a debt to equity ratio of 4.7.

They also have selling products, not to mention that the Ford F-150 Lightning is easily the e-truck I'd bet to have the most sales until, say, 2025.

they only plan to produce 80k in 2024 - lackluster to be honest

Re: Rivian Files for IPO, Seeking About $80B Valuation

#12
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Ironically, Ford, which is a big investor in Rivian, has a market cap of only $52B.

I loved this tweet by Ross Gerber "So that makes tesla worth $8 tril by these metrics." https://twitter.com/GerberKawasaki/status/143129811631815884... Some valuations are truly difficult to grasp.

Nearly all valuations are difficult to grasp at this point. We're _way_ overdue for a _massive_ correction. Surprised Pikachu faces incoming.

Re: Rivian Files for IPO, Seeking About $80B Valuation

#14

Have to wonder why a very well funded company would plan to IPO before they've delivered a single product. Almost like they are betting against themselves.

It seems in this space actually delivering something takes out the magic and reduces valuation. Remember Magic Leap? Much better to push vaporware and cash out.

Re: Rivian Files for IPO, Seeking About $80B Valuation

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ford has a debt to equity ratio of 4.7.

They also have selling products, not to mention that the Ford F-150 Lightning is easily the e-truck I'd bet to have the most sales until, say, 2025.

Only if you don't understand the constraints on battery and battery supply chain. The reason Ford is not actually planning to build as many as people assume.

Re: Rivian Files for IPO, Seeking About $80B Valuation

#16

Have to wonder why a very well funded company would plan to IPO before they've delivered a single product. Almost like they are betting against themselves.

It seems in this space actually delivering something takes out the magic and reduces valuation. Remember Magic Leap? Much better to push vaporware and cash out.

Or solar-freaking-roadways.

Re: Rivian Files for IPO, Seeking About $80B Valuation

#17
post #5

Ironically, Ford, which is a big investor in Rivian, has a market cap of only $52B.

Ford has a debt to equity ratio of 4.7.

Ford’s debt is misleading. A lot of it is due to their customer financing operations, if I recall correctly.

Re: Rivian Files for IPO, Seeking About $80B Valuation

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post #12
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I loved this tweet by Ross Gerber "So that makes tesla worth $8 tril by these metrics." https://twitter.com/GerberKawasaki/status/143129811631815884... Some valuations are truly difficult to grasp.

Nearly all valuations are difficult to grasp at this point. We're _way_ overdue for a _massive_ correction. Surprised Pikachu faces incoming.

Powell won't reduce the Fed's balance sheet until every last person in PE is a billionaire (on paper).

https://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/bst_recenttren...

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