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Re: The future Firefox UI

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Post by aw3c2 »

gkanai wrote: post #63
kstenerud wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hope there's an option to put the forward button back in. I use it a lot.

Firefox's UI has always been the most customizable of any of the major browsers. You will be able to add it back in if it is taken out by default in the future. (Disclosure: I work for Mozilla but not on the UX team.)

I do not believe that, from my experience Opera is much more configurable, at least my current Opera setup suggests that. I have added buttons to my UI that I would have to install addons for in Firefox.

Re: The future Firefox UI

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Post by mikemaccana »

MatthewPhillips wrote: post #107
blauwbilgorgel wrote: post #61

What I don't like about these Chrome UI's is that they don't respect my OS settings. I am on Windows 7 with the classic NT skin. iTunes and Chrome are one of the few programs that don't respect this skin. While in this case it is simple user preference, in other cases it could mean an accessibility concern, or even give room to malicious attacks: With all these custom browser skins, pop-ups over the HTML body (link d…

That's because you mistakenly think Chrome is a Windows app, a Mac app, and a Linux app. It's not. It's an operating system that runs on top of those. They aren't going to, and shouldn't, waste their time trying to mimic UI decisions for various OSes. They aren't trying to be like Seesmic or Evernote (meaning, they aren't trying to be an "app").

More people use multiple apps on one platform than use the same app on multiple platforms. That said,a browser is considered an app platform itself these days.

Also: you disagree with the poster. That doesn't mean he has been proven wrong. Your post comes off as unnecessarily rude.

Re: The future Firefox UI

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Post by shapoopy »

dpark wrote: post #102
wmf wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately the Delicious Generation (including some of its adherents inside Apple) threw out the HIG. And now we have the weird iOS-OS X hybrid that is Lion.

I haven't used Lion yet, but from what I've seen, it's still far more consistent than Windows.

This is undoubtedly true (with the flagrant exception of iCal and Address Book), but some of us old-timey Mac users remember a glorious past full of matte gray and a spatial Finder…

Re: The future Firefox UI

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Post by blauwbilgorgel »

MatthewPhillips wrote: post #107
blauwbilgorgel wrote: post #61

What I don't like about these Chrome UI's is that they don't respect my OS settings. I am on Windows 7 with the classic NT skin. iTunes and Chrome are one of the few programs that don't respect this skin. While in this case it is simple user preference, in other cases it could mean an accessibility concern, or even give room to malicious attacks: With all these custom browser skins, pop-ups over the HTML body (link d…

That's because you mistakenly think Chrome is a Windows app, a Mac app, and a Linux app. It's not. It's an operating system that runs on top of those. They aren't going to, and shouldn't, waste their time trying to mimic UI decisions for various OSes. They aren't trying to be like Seesmic or Evernote (meaning, they aren't trying to be an "app").

I'll admit I am not a good pick when it comes to computer semantics, so I might be mistaken.

Trying to be an "app" or not: For me, it is about the courtesy of respecting my main OS settings. It is about introducing accessibility concerns by overriding system settings such as demonstrated in this active bug report from 2008: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=92

> They aren't going to, and shouldn't, waste their time

It looks like they are going to, and really should fix this bug report. Improving the usability, interoperability and accessibility of your "app" or "operating system" is not a waste of time. You'd have a hard time backing that up.

Re: The future Firefox UI

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Post by dpark »

shapoopy wrote: post #113
dpark wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I haven't used Lion yet, but from what I've seen, it's still far more consistent than Windows.

This is undoubtedly true (with the flagrant exception of iCal and Address Book), but some of us old-timey Mac users remember a glorious past full of matte gray and a spatial Finder…

That's true about iCal and Address Book. I don't use either of those, so I'd forgotten what they'd done to them.

I'm not an "old-timey" Mac user by any stretch of the imagination, but I can't help wondering when Macs were "full of matte gray". Are you referring to pre-OSX days, because it seems that OSX is more gray now than ever before?

Re: The future Firefox UI

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Post by aj700 »

Is the background blue check thing a Lion desktop picture or just something blueprinty that moz are using for this? How do I get it (with nothing drawn on top of it)?
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