Meh. Everybody was like "private companies can do whatever they like" when parler was censored off the internet. Now why is it a big deal when the same happens to a porn site? Only fans can create their own Visa and Mastercard if they want.
The real OnlyFans scandal is the unaccountable power of platforms and banks
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#32> for these corporations this is not a matter of free expression, as it ought to be, but one of morality Is it really true that banks block transactions related to sex work because they are morally against it? Last time I checked banks just want to make money. This is a genuine question by the way. > But just a few weeks in, Twitch shut it down after a change of policy that included, among other things, a ban on visi…
My understanding is that banks don't really care about sex. At least the one I worked for didn't seem to care. They will take all the money they can get. The more they have, the more they can lend out based on the fractional reserve system. They do care if people are not investing money in their banks and there are investors that don't wish to be associated with adult related organizations.
Perhaps there is a way to shield investors from this association without cutting off adult content businesses?
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#33So do I have to be THAT guy? Fine. Crypto solves this issue...
These people, especially in porn, live by impulsive spending (buying the subscription, sending tips). The high delay and extremely large sign-up burden [0], combined with the fees, would probably ruin a lot of their income. Remember, they compete with a free offering.
[0] Most people don't own crypto yet, so they'd need to learn about it, create an exchange account, verify it, fill it up and then they can pay. Compare that to two minutes of entering cc information.
Re: The real OnlyFans scandal is the unaccountable power of platforms and banks
#34The platform and banks also do not allow the following list items which are varying degrees of legal. There are categories that they crack down upon which are entirely legal and that doesn't sit well with me.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Choke_Point ammunition sales cable box de-scramblers coin dealers credit card schemes credit repair services dating services debt consolidation scams drug paraphernalia escort services firearms sales fireworks sales get rich products government grants home-based charities lifetime guarantees lifetime memberships lottery sales mailing lists/personal info money transfer networks online gambling pawn shops payday loans pharmaceutical sales Ponzi schemes Pornography[5] pyramid-type sales racist materials surveillance equipment telemarketing tobacco sales travel clubs
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#35The centralized financial system is a weak point, and those in power are more than happy to utilize it ala Operation Choke Point.[0] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Choke_Point
It's odd to me that people, such as the author of the Guardian article, so casually find the origin of the censorship in 'surveillance capitalism' or corporations, even as they also hold that corporations are singularly motivated by money.
The existence of Operation Choke Point makes pretty clear that in fact a self-appointed group of questing govt officials are the ones motivated to impose censorship. The existence of monopoly financial platforms give them the means.
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#36The reason the banks, and through the banks OnlyFans, attack sex is because they are accountable, and don't wish to take risks unless they are very profitable risks. The real danger of platforms and banks is how happy they are to censor for the government, or simply the loudest, richest mouth, in order to keep the profit flowing. If you want to fix it, you put in legal protections for people to do business, rather th…
I have to ask. Who is going to hold banks responsible for their role as just a payment gateway and not the actual people involved or the service?
This is like saying banks are responsible for a drug mafia using a laundromat for "money washing" by using sales proceeds of a laundromat depositing into the said bank and sending it away.
Re: The real OnlyFans scandal is the unaccountable power of platforms and banks
#37The reason the banks, and through the banks OnlyFans, attack sex is because they are accountable, and don't wish to take risks unless they are very profitable risks. The real danger of platforms and banks is how happy they are to censor for the government, or simply the loudest, richest mouth, in order to keep the profit flowing. If you want to fix it, you put in legal protections for people to do business, rather th…
Agreed, the article goes to the wrong place. The real cause is that most organizations (government, financial institutions, media conglomerates, etc.) are largely controlled by old rich white guys and they don't like people doing things. They are the ones pushing their "morality". We need more diverse and younger people in these positions to evolve our culture more quickly.
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#38The author has a book "Silicon Values: The Future of Free Speech Under Surveillance Capitalism"
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1.0 out of 5 stars Another pompous elitist advocating free speech for those they agree with
Reviewed in the United States on July 19, 2021
Looking for yet another elitist advocating for freedoms, but only those they agree with, then this is the book for you. The author complains vociferously about silicon valley enterprises restricting the speech of people and groups she politically agrees with while at the exact same time advocating for the removal of content she finds "offensive". The author also makes great noise (rightfully) attacking racial and religious bigotry while simultaneously coming across as extremely bigoted towards Jews and anyone with low melanin counts and politically right of Mao. If the author is the voice of freedom of expression and speech in the modern age then we are all doomed.
see: https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R2MXNOSHCZ1CW1/re...
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#39Why is still the real narrative for this ban is still not around the children on that platform. I can't for the life of mine understand why everybody is pulling their own agenda while the real reason for that ban is dragged under the rag. Crazy...
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#40Meh. Everybody was like "private companies can do whatever they like" when parler was censored off the internet. Now why is it a big deal when the same happens to a porn site? Only fans can create their own Visa and Mastercard if they want.
Underrated.