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Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by yosame »

cwkoss wrote: post #532
ryanSrich wrote: post #445

Twitter has to be one of the most dystopian apps ever created. Not just from a UX perspective, but from a cultural perspective as well. Some of the most evil people I’ve ever come across are avid users of Twitter and wield it like a sword to destroy people’s lives. I’m confident it’s been a net negative for society.

Are Twitter, Facebook and Reddit meaningfully different in this regard? I think they have different affinities to different demographics, but the toxic behavior is quite similar among all of them. Is there something about Twitter in particular that makes it particularly toxic, or is it inherent to platforms where people compete for attention in the public square?

I'd argue that the lack of characters per tweet is what makes Twitter so toxic, since it essentially destroys the ability to convey nuance.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by ben-gy »

miohtama wrote: post #72
wildpeaks wrote: post #64

On top of it, it's not just a matter of creating an account because they get blocked within two minutes until you also give them your phone number, despite the registration pretends it's not required (because once you signed up, it's easier to trick people into giving up yet more information than asking for it upfront).

Here is a research how much phone number verification decreases account fraud a.k.a. spam bots http://static.googleusercontent.com/media/research.google.co...

That is genuinely a very interesting paper - thanks for sharing

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by Saris »

dredmorbius wrote: post #490
Saris wrote: post #473

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With RES I've never seen new reddit, everything always goes to old.reddit.com

Not all browsers support extensions. Even those that do may support only a subset. (Mobile most especially.)

I'd be amazed if many people are using reddit via browser on mobile, when there are so many good open source reddit apps out there.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by dang »

heywherelogingo wrote: post #277
bityard wrote: post #249

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I don't understand the question. IRC is a real-time chat protocol and twitter is a proprietary micro-blogging website. I don't see how the two are related, other than they are both something to do with the Internet.

You do understand the question, you've just decided to respond in a silly way.

Would you please stop posting flamebait and/or unsubstantive comments to HN?

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and sticking to the rules when posting here, we'd be grateful.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by OrangeMusic »

alanhaha wrote: post #596
arsome wrote: post #176

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I prefer to just steal keys by reverse engineering mobile apps. So easy to get keys for just about anything and charge someone else for it that way.

But as a developer, I won't put the API key in the client.

How will the client communicate with the API then?

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by OrangeMusic »

syshum wrote: post #291
riffic wrote: post #35

I posted this yesterday: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28281472 this is an issue (and I fail to see this mentioned here today) in that public sector agencies use Twitter to disseminate emergency information. With a login wall, this information is not getting out to the people who need it the most. I mod /r/Twitter and saw about a week ago a number of threads complaining about a new login-wall. This shit is 100…

Beyond the Login wall, Public Sector Agencies should not be using Twitter as a Primary communication method, it would be Ok to have the messages Copied their from Official Sources, but there should be Official Sources to obtain the same info, at the same time, update in the same frequency.

Seriously, how is Twitter better than an RSS feed for this use?

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Post by pabs3 »

IlPeach wrote: post #628
young_unixer wrote: post #526

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The real culprits here are these public sector agencies. They shouldn't use inaccessible mediums like Twitter as their primary channel of information.

Yes, and no. They use what's available and what gets them in front of the users. IMO I don't see anything wrong with that. The problem comes if they don't provide any other way to access their information.

I like Debian's approach to this; publish short news on their own site and also automatically republish those items on social networks. Full blog posts get similar treatment.

https://micronews.debian.org/ https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Publicity/micronews https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Publicity/otherSN

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by riffic »

OrangeMusic wrote: post #637
syshum wrote: post #291

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Beyond the Login wall, Public Sector Agencies should not be using Twitter as a Primary communication method, it would be Ok to have the messages Copied their from Official Sources, but there should be Official Sources to obtain the same info, at the same time, update in the same frequency.

Seriously, how is Twitter better than an RSS feed for this use?

the people in the public sector don't know any better. It's going to take regulation and legislation to force a position into standards-compliance.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by gligorot »

arsome wrote: post #230
hn_99 wrote: post #224

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Interesting. As someone who hasn't done any mobile dev at all, is there a way to prevent something like this from happening? Can't you somehow encrypt such secrets in the app?

You can try, but you won't succeed against a dedicated reverse engineer, simply dropping a hook in on the API calls would be enough to grab the decrypted key in a case like that, if not simply statically reading the encryption keys and decrypting it. That's not to say it's useless - some reversers will simply move on to the next app when there's a list of dozens. You can also send requests via your own server, which…

What about secure key import on Android? It's still not that widely available, but should be everywhere in a few years. The idea is:

-a keypair is generated in secure hardware

- you send the public key to a server which encrypts the secret key with it

- the server sends the encrypted key back

- then it goes inside the secure hardware where it gets decrypted

The decrypted secret key is never in the userspace.

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