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Some Vermonters turn to ayahuasca as a 'last resort' to heal

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Re: Some Vermonters turn to ayahuasca as a 'last resort' to heal

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The best cure for whatever is ailing them is leaving Vermont. Humans, biologically, were not designed to live in Vermont. It is the equivalent of putting a Husky in the Sahara.

I suppose then that those of us living in Canada are beyond saving.

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I've tried every psy except Ayahuasca: DMT, LSD, Bromo-DragonFLY, RC's from the 2c family, ketamine, MDMA, and so on. In each case, I had "profound" realizations during the experience that lasted a day or two, then I reverted back to my normal ways of being depressed in a messy apartment and slacking at my job. In this article, I see descriptors of Ayahuasca similar to those of other psychedelics (years of therapy in…

I have not tried any; but I'just curious -- if you write your epiphanies down do they hold their values or turn into gobbledygook when you sober up?

I've tried mushrooms (both dried and natural) and LSD. In my case, "epiphanies" were basically the same as what you get when you smoke a lot of pot or drink a lot of beer: "the world is in 3d", "time is only a construct", "everything in the universe is connected", "our bodies can't physically touch due to the space between atoms", etc. I've written them down in journals, but it's all "gobbledygook" as you mention.

Re: Some Vermonters turn to ayahuasca as a 'last resort' to heal

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I've tried every psy except Ayahuasca: DMT, LSD, Bromo-DragonFLY, RC's from the 2c family, ketamine, MDMA, and so on. In each case, I had "profound" realizations during the experience that lasted a day or two, then I reverted back to my normal ways of being depressed in a messy apartment and slacking at my job. In this article, I see descriptors of Ayahuasca similar to those of other psychedelics (years of therapy in…

It can be useful just to remember that it is possible to feel those profound experiences. That you have access to them, and that your normal, depressed experience is subjective too.

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I've tried every psy except Ayahuasca: DMT, LSD, Bromo-DragonFLY, RC's from the 2c family, ketamine, MDMA, and so on. In each case, I had "profound" realizations during the experience that lasted a day or two, then I reverted back to my normal ways of being depressed in a messy apartment and slacking at my job. In this article, I see descriptors of Ayahuasca similar to those of other psychedelics (years of therapy in…

What are you doing during these experiences? What are your moments leading up to them? What are your weeks after it?

Are you doing them for fun or are you intentionally doing them to improve and analyze your life?

Psychedelics have had an incredibly positive impact on my life and have led to prolonged and drastic changes.

I've healed relationships, changed life long habits and truly feel as though I am on the continual path of self improvement and being a better person. Those were all seeds that were sewn during a psychedelic experience.

These compounds may change your life overnight (but only for a week or so) what they mainly do is plant seeds in very fertile soil. It is on you to recognize the seeds and water them in your normal, daily life.

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I can't help but wonder what kind of world we exist in, if people are driven to drugs (not specifically ayahuasca, but also prescribed ones) just to live.

The spike in mental health diagnoses and drug use ... it feels like there's something seriously wrong with the world and environment in which these people exist. The system is broken, as it were.

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I've tried every psy except Ayahuasca: DMT, LSD, Bromo-DragonFLY, RC's from the 2c family, ketamine, MDMA, and so on. In each case, I had "profound" realizations during the experience that lasted a day or two, then I reverted back to my normal ways of being depressed in a messy apartment and slacking at my job. In this article, I see descriptors of Ayahuasca similar to those of other psychedelics (years of therapy in…

What comes after the trip is often called “integration” and it’s even more important than the trip.

The medicine (and any other form of support like therapists, etc.) can only show you the path to healing yourself, the actual work of healing yourself can only be done by you.

The idea that the lessons seem profound, is rooted in the idea of ego death and listening to your higher self. As the medicine wears off the ego returns.

Your intention makes a huge difference too. If you take the medicine with the intention of healing, or with a healing guide like a shaman or medicine worker they can help support you through the integration.

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I've tried every psy except Ayahuasca: DMT, LSD, Bromo-DragonFLY, RC's from the 2c family, ketamine, MDMA, and so on. In each case, I had "profound" realizations during the experience that lasted a day or two, then I reverted back to my normal ways of being depressed in a messy apartment and slacking at my job. In this article, I see descriptors of Ayahuasca similar to those of other psychedelics (years of therapy in…

Ayahuasca is a much longer, heavier application (drink vs smoke) of DMT + MAOI, so you have had a taste. I have also had everything in your list too. D is one of the few drugs I deeply deeply fear/respect, and folks should not take this lightly. The spirit molecule is nothing to be trifled with.

I’ve never heard of “D” but I know from experience actual proper LSD is not to be taken lightly either.

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I've tried every psy except Ayahuasca: DMT, LSD, Bromo-DragonFLY, RC's from the 2c family, ketamine, MDMA, and so on. In each case, I had "profound" realizations during the experience that lasted a day or two, then I reverted back to my normal ways of being depressed in a messy apartment and slacking at my job. In this article, I see descriptors of Ayahuasca similar to those of other psychedelics (years of therapy in…

Heh maybe stop doing so many drugs?

Re: Some Vermonters turn to ayahuasca as a 'last resort' to heal

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I can't help but wonder what kind of world we exist in, if people are driven to drugs (not specifically ayahuasca, but also prescribed ones) just to live. The spike in mental health diagnoses and drug use ... it feels like there's something seriously wrong with the world and environment in which these people exist. The system is broken, as it were.

Many, if not most, of the pre-modern civilizations of the world were to some degree or another vision-seeking. Ayahuasca is a psychedelic. If people were never at all seeking altered states of consciousness, that would be surprising.

Though I do agree. I read some study somewhere about the absurd proposition that the Nordic countries are the happiest on earth--when they also have the highest use of SSRIs in the world. What kind of world is it wherein people are driven to lame pharmaceuticals to maintain their lives?

Re: Some Vermonters turn to ayahuasca as a 'last resort' to heal

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ayahuasca is a much longer, heavier application (drink vs smoke) of DMT + MAOI, so you have had a taste. I have also had everything in your list too. D is one of the few drugs I deeply deeply fear/respect, and folks should not take this lightly. The spirit molecule is nothing to be trifled with.

I’ve never heard of “D” but I know from experience actual proper LSD is not to be taken lightly either.

D = DMT

For sure, One should respect LSD also. It is not a 'party drug'. But DMT is something quite different. LSD will warp reality for a day. D will rip you right out of reality for 5 mins.

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