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Power users mourn features lost in Windows 11 'simplification'

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Re: Power users mourn features lost in Windows 11 'simplification'

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Post by tailspin2019 »

darepublic wrote: post #6
tailspin2019 wrote: post #2

In the lovely bubble that I live in, the “power users” haven’t been using Windows for quite some time now. To Microsoft’s credit, they’ve made it incredibly easy for me, a .NET developer, to not have to use Windows any more. So I am, admittedly, grateful for that.

An old programming joke compared c# (ie .net) to a laser cannon strapped to a donkey, that oddly enough doesn't work as well without the donkey. Does this still ring true to you seeing as you are using the laser cannon sans donkey

No it doesn't.

The 2021 .NET ecosystem (post .NET Core transition) is a _very_ different beast.

It now works better without the donkey IMHO.

EDIT: In fact I wish they'd just shoot the damn donkey and focus more on the laser cannon.

Re: Power users mourn features lost in Windows 11 'simplification'

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Post by minikites »

This is too bad. Apple taking the "appliance" path with their computers makes me wish Microsoft would lean into power user features and customization options to play to the strengths and appeal of Windows. I don't think trying to be a worse version of MacOS is a good strategy.

Re: Power users mourn features lost in Windows 11 'simplification'

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Post by tailspin2019 »

chunkyks wrote: post #20
stillblue wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've got a few questions. 1) What OS/IDE combination do you use? 2) Is there any reason you've not switched to other languages that are most commonly found in non-windows environments? 3) How is the tooling around .NET diagnostics and memory profiling on the OS you use?

For me, 1) Linux and jetbrains rider 2) 30k sloc heavily v&v'd code? Why? The cost and effort would be insane, and, to MS' credit, the current .NET ecosystem is great. 3) First class citizen. Rider (and the other jetbrains stuff) is as good as any other I've used In my eyes, as someone who has been exclusively a Linux user since 1998, I now include C# in serious consideration for greenfield projects as well as legacy…

Well said

Re: Power users mourn features lost in Windows 11 'simplification'

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Post by bloopernova »

I gave up on Windows after version 11 got pushed to my personal workstation. I had been using the insiders build that updates weekly.

I loathed that I was getting app suggestions and ads, and there was a greater loss of control over the operating system.

Switched to Fedora latest, haven't looked back.

Re: Power users mourn features lost in Windows 11 'simplification'

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Post by cowanon22 »

neppo wrote: post #13
zarmin wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Win-1 is file explorer, Win-2 is web browser, Win-3 is email, etc... Is this something you set up natively in windows? Or are you using AHK?

The numbers 1, 2, 3 refers to the task bar position. If you order the programs that way on your task bar, then you can access them with these shortcuts.

Lol, I've been using Windows for a long time and had no idea these shortcuts exist - I will probably use them all the time going forwards.

Re: Power users mourn features lost in Windows 11 'simplification'

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Post by FridayoLeary »

bloopernova wrote: post #24

I gave up on Windows after version 11 got pushed to my personal workstation. I had been using the insiders build that updates weekly. I loathed that I was getting app suggestions and ads, and there was a greater loss of control over the operating system. Switched to Fedora latest, haven't looked back.

They shouldn't be trying to push "apps". I want heavyweight programs and software not cheesy-sounding "apps". Not to mention being gently prodded at every turn to Microsofts own uninspiring ecosystem like i'm stupid.

Re: Power users mourn features lost in Windows 11 'simplification'

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Post by tailspin2019 »

stillblue wrote: post #4
tailspin2019 wrote: post #2

In the lovely bubble that I live in, the “power users” haven’t been using Windows for quite some time now. To Microsoft’s credit, they’ve made it incredibly easy for me, a .NET developer, to not have to use Windows any more. So I am, admittedly, grateful for that.

I've got a few questions. 1) What OS/IDE combination do you use? 2) Is there any reason you've not switched to other languages that are most commonly found in non-windows environments? 3) How is the tooling around .NET diagnostics and memory profiling on the OS you use?

To add to the other replies (including the one on my behalf) - VS Code tooling is excellent too on Mac. It's one of the better Electron apps.

Even Microsoft's own Visual Studio for Mac is getting better - but has a long way to go to match Rider.

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