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Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

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Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

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Post by TeMPOraL »

Macha wrote: post #38
jrm4 wrote: post #31

Love it. The question, especially for the folks around here. When Github eventually takes a stronger stand against this sort of thing, because it is 100% going to happen, are folks going to properly fight it?

They were DMCAed, they got bad press out of it, they eventually stood up for the developer in exchange for a token concession (deleting test data that referred to copyrighted music and was named in the complaint): https://github.blog/2020-11-16-standing-up-for-developers-yo... , and reversed the takedown unilaterally (which would mean the claimant could take github/microsoft to court if they felt like it). Whether it…

> (which would mean the claimant could take github/microsoft to court if they felt like it)

I can't imagine that ever happening. But what I can imagine is the media groups giving Microsoft a hard time on whatever deals they have in the Xbox ecosystem, pressuring until GitHub unilaterally reverses their reversal, or does something else to satisfy them.

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

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Post by TeMPOraL »

sodality2 wrote: post #162
mattl wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Alas not really watching a video on a browser.

Android? Youtube vanced offers this built-in.

Never heard of YouTube Vanced. I see it's not open source. The feature list is interesting, but it doesn't say anything about tracking/telemetry. Does the app track you (and how much), independently of YouTube tracking?

I'm currently happy with NewPipe - which is essentially a youtube-dl GUI, and has to be updated just as often, which is damn annoying because FDroid is still completely broken UX-wise - but I have less tech-savvy people around me, who would very much like an alternative to the official YouTube app.

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

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Post by executesorder66 »

kunagi7 wrote: post #13
Y_Y wrote: post #2

So how come a fork was necessary?

youtube-dl has been inactive for the last 2 months. Most things still work but support of different services is something that needs daily updates to not break. Even if most popular websites still work, pages like Newgrounds are breaking. There's 3.7k open issues right now and nothing gets merged [0]. [0] https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/issues

But still, why a fork? Why not contribute to the original project?

Why not ask for maintainership if you need it?

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

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Post by anshumankmr »

azinman2 wrote: post #27
banana_giraffe wrote: post #11

One of the nice features added to yt-dlp recently: It integrates with sponskrub to call into the SponsorBlock database and with the right options will strip the sponsor segments from downloaded videos. Edit: Correct typo

Are the sponsor parts really so bad? To me not only is it easy to skip, I want indie people to make enough money to produce high quality content; otherwise media is just what a few biggies want to fund. They’re not enough from YouTube itself unless you’re in the top percentile. Also what sponsored content are people downloading versus just streaming live? I don’t get the use case.

There is only a certain number of times a person can watch a video where the creator mentions they are sponsored by Raid Shadow Legends before a person will go mad.

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

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Post by comprev »

genewitch wrote: post #171
azinman2 wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Until they see they get very little ROI and stop advertising that way. It's not like people sponsoring aren't looking to see what these channels do for them and just spend blindly...

In the 1940s and 1950s radio programs and eventually television shows were sponsored by advertisers. soap operas get their name for being vehicles for soap companies. Off the top of my head Fitch's soap company was a big advertiser in the 40s. Another big advertiser in the forties and fifties was rexall. I don't know what the return on investment was, I always figured they did it as a way to show that they supported…

Unilever was a sponsor of early TV dramas in the UK

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

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Post by sildur »

azinman2 wrote: post #27
banana_giraffe wrote: post #11

One of the nice features added to yt-dlp recently: It integrates with sponskrub to call into the SponsorBlock database and with the right options will strip the sponsor segments from downloaded videos. Edit: Correct typo

Are the sponsor parts really so bad? To me not only is it easy to skip, I want indie people to make enough money to produce high quality content; otherwise media is just what a few biggies want to fund. They’re not enough from YouTube itself unless you’re in the top percentile. Also what sponsored content are people downloading versus just streaming live? I don’t get the use case.

It is unnecessary filler that will also get stale pretty quickly. I archive videos, and the ads would be obsolete in less than 10 years.

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

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Post by esyir »

sildur wrote: post #257
azinman2 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are the sponsor parts really so bad? To me not only is it easy to skip, I want indie people to make enough money to produce high quality content; otherwise media is just what a few biggies want to fund. They’re not enough from YouTube itself unless you’re in the top percentile. Also what sponsored content are people downloading versus just streaming live? I don’t get the use case.

It is unnecessary filler that will also get stale pretty quickly. I archive videos, and the ads would be obsolete in less than 10 years.

An archivist might want to keep both the original and an integration that strips the sponsor

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

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Post by comprev »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #233
azinman2 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are the sponsor parts really so bad? To me not only is it easy to skip, I want indie people to make enough money to produce high quality content; otherwise media is just what a few biggies want to fund. They’re not enough from YouTube itself unless you’re in the top percentile. Also what sponsored content are people downloading versus just streaming live? I don’t get the use case.

> Are the sponsor parts really so bad? To me not only is it easy to skip Well, yes. Skipping involves effort. If I wanted to engage my hands with the content, I would've opted for a book, not a video. Anyway, actual sponsor parts I can stand. They're at least somewhat interesting, by virtue of being unexpected. Like, who is this video sponsored by this time? Or, why this well-known and otherwise respected science/tec…

The more subscribers a channel has the closer they are to gaining an official star from YouTube. They want to boost the subscriber level to attract sponsorship too.

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

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Post by detaro »

esyir wrote: post #258
sildur wrote: post #257

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is unnecessary filler that will also get stale pretty quickly. I archive videos, and the ads would be obsolete in less than 10 years.

An archivist might want to keep both the original and an integration that strips the sponsor

Is there a way of attaching cut instructions to a video file that players recognize?
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